What Pathfinder Did Right

Dean · Post by **Dean** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:44 am

I consider Belts of Physical Might auto-buys so I included those in. The Summoner also has the entire Planar Binding line as well as Dominate Monster so making yourself a little Wish Factory for the +5 Inherent bonus is well within your abilities. With a Belt of Physical Might boosting your physical stats and the inherent +5 bonus from wish farming gaining a Con in the 30's basically only requires the Huge evolution which you probably want anyway.

The nice thing about Summoner (Synthesist or otherwise) is that you don't actually have to choose between your Eidolon or your Summons. You can't summon while your Eidolon is out but you can summon first and then pop in your Eidolon. If you summon first you can have the best of both worlds.

I'm aware that at level 1 very little of this is applicable to you but after level six and particularly after level eight they can change your power level a lot.

momothefiddler · Post by **momothefiddler** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:56 am

Ah, okay.

Yeah, good notes. Thanks. You're right that they're not immediately relevant, but they will be useful if the game continues.

Slade · Post by **Slade** » Fri May 16, 2014 6:52 pm

deanruel87 wrote:I consider Belts of Physical Might auto-buys so I included those in. The Summoner also has the entire Planar Binding line as well as Dominate Monster so making yourself a little Wish Factory for the +5 Inherent bonus is well within your abilities. With a Belt of Physical Might boosting your physical stats and the inherent +5 bonus from wish farming gaining a Con in the 30's basically only requires the Huge evolution which you probably want anyway.

The nice thing about Summoner (Synthesist or otherwise) is that you don't actually have to choose between your Eidolon or your Summons. You can't summon while your Eidolon is out but you can summon first and then pop in your Eidolon. If you summon first you can have the best of both worlds.

I'm aware that at level 1 very little of this is applicable to you but after level six and particularly after level eight they can change your power level a lot.

Actually, Summoner Archetype Wild Caller can have Summons and Eidolon out at same time.

momothefiddler · Post by **momothefiddler** » Fri May 16, 2014 7:08 pm

Slade wrote:
deanruel87 wrote:I consider Belts of Physical Might auto-buys so I included those in. The Summoner also has the entire Planar Binding line as well as Dominate Monster so making yourself a little Wish Factory for the +5 Inherent bonus is well within your abilities. With a Belt of Physical Might boosting your physical stats and the inherent +5 bonus from wish farming gaining a Con in the 30's basically only requires the Huge evolution which you probably want anyway.

The nice thing about Summoner (Synthesist or otherwise) is that you don't actually have to choose between your Eidolon or your Summons. You can't summon while your Eidolon is out but you can summon first and then pop in your Eidolon. If you summon first you can have the best of both worlds.

I'm aware that at level 1 very little of this is applicable to you but after level six and particularly after level eight they can change your power level a lot.
Actually, Summoner Archetype Wild Caller can have Summons and Eidolon out at same time.

Actually, there is nothing in the archetype that allows Wild Callers to have Summons and Eidolon out at the same time beyond what dean said (and you quoted). The important line is "This ability otherwise functions like the standard summoner's summon monster I ability and replaces that ability."