Also chaos deserves some lego love too:
And now necrons:
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FrankTrollman wrote: Actually, our blood banking system is set up exactly the way you'd want it to be if you were a secret vampire conspiracy.
I wonder if that's because the Imperium has new super marine things, so they can give chaos have some of the old super marine terminator things.maglag wrote:With 8th edition it seems like is exactly that, since the new Nurgle Chaos Lord can suddenly take the Catchpracthi pattern terminator armor that dates back to the 30k (and which loyalist scum could take core since 7th edition).
I thought it was because since the blessing of Nurgle meant that decaying flesh et al didn't bother you, bullet wounds also wouldn't bother you so much.Zaranthan wrote:IIRC, the rationale for Nurgle's various durability boosts was that you're infected with all kinds of crazy shit and have necrotized flesh and pus blisters all over your body, but Nurgle's blessing means these don't actually have an adverse effect on your ability to DO anything. Thus, they're just extra body parts, and the rule represents the bullet landing there and not causing a "real" wound, or possibly the old "gunslinger with a bible in their pocket" myth.
GW canon is like SCP canon: there is none. It's entirely possible that both explanations can be found by looking in different codices. There's also the issue of remembering the one faction's fluff for a different faction's mechanic. One or both of our explanations could have been an Eldar or Adeptus Mechanicus speculating about a bulletproof squad bearing Nurgle's mark.Thaluikhain wrote:I thought it was because since the blessing of Nurgle meant that decaying flesh et al didn't bother you, bullet wounds also wouldn't bother you so much.
Koumei wrote:...is the dead guy posthumously at fault for his own death and, due to the felony murder law, his own murderer?
hyzmarca wrote:A palace made out of poop is much more impressive than one made out of gold. Stinkier, but more impressive. One is an ostentatious display of wealth. The other is a miraculous engineering feat.
Not really. The thing with the Dark Eldar is that they get all their beauty tips from Liz Bathory. See, Slaanesh supposedly finds eldar extra tasty and psychically drains them through the Warp, eventually claiming them entirely upon death. That's bad. The Eldar deal with this with their spirit stones and the Dark Eldar deal with it by leeching souls and staving off the aging process via the suffering of other sapient life. So, aside from the lack of daemon avatars running around the Dark Eldar are functionally equivalent to a weird Slaanesh cult from the practical perspective of outsiders. Whether they're motivated by fear or respect they're still going to torture you to death in their sex dungeon because otherwise Psychic Pervert Space Satan something something.maglag wrote:You know, when you consider the Eldar as Khorne worshippers worshipping daemons, wouldn't that make the Dark Eldar slightly less evil since at least those aren't summoning daemons?
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Thanks much to Koumei and Frank for taking us on this trip down grimdark memory lane.FrankTrollman wrote:Koumei:
[...] Anyway, as Frank is about to mention in a bit more depth, this game was not just an update on the previous one (whereas you could sort of take your 3E army into 4E and just be at a mild disadvantage from basic power creep or some abilities working differently). Likewise from 5th to 6th and from 6th to 7th – they were the incremental changes of D&D 3E to 3.5 where maybe your specific character suddenly sucks because someone had a hate-on for chargers but if you had made a Wizard under the old system, chances were good that you barely had to change anything other than allocate your Scry skill points into a new Knowledge or something, maybe adjust your prepared spells, and any old prestige classes not yet updated could still basically work (for non-casters, probably better than once they DID update them!). 2E to 3E in Warhammer 40K was a lot like 2E to 3E in D&D where you were doing it all from the ground up and your old codex was suddenly meaningless.
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FrankT:
A wargame isn't a playable thing without army lists, which is why 4th edition was such a slap in the fucking face.
FrankTrollman wrote: Actually, our blood banking system is set up exactly the way you'd want it to be if you were a secret vampire conspiracy.
Bonus points: not every army has anti-air. Some straight-up have to take an Aegis defence line (a universal-except-fuck-Tyranids choice from the core book, which cannot move) in their only Fortification slot and try to position it for maximum coverage at the start, and if that gets destroyed quickly by an air-craft heavy unit, then fuck you. And then because GW can't mathhammer their way out of a paper bag (also known as Imperial Guard armour), in some cases the anti-air stuff is strictly inferior at its job to plain old weight of fire (ie the best Ork anti-air was the Loota Boy squad, which lost all of 1 BS).maglag wrote:Fliers becoming standard to further crap in melee, and now every army had to pack anti-air of some sort.
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FrankTrollman wrote: Actually, our blood banking system is set up exactly the way you'd want it to be if you were a secret vampire conspiracy.