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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hey, remember when it was a pillar of Trump's campaign that Hillary having meetings with people who had donated to her charitable foundation made her a criminal who should be in prison?

Imagine if she'd held a party where each of the guests paid to be there, and shared the stage with a convicted mobster.
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angelfromanotherpin wrote:
Hey, remember when it was a pillar of Trump's campaign that Hillary having meetings with people who had donated to her charitable foundation made her a criminal who should be in prison?

Imagine if she'd held a party where each of the guests paid to be there, and shared the stage with a convicted mobster.


To be fair, Trump can't possibly avoid meeting with people who donated to his "charitable" foundation. Since they are all in his cabinet now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Kaelik wrote:


To be fair, Trump can't possibly avoid meeting with people who donated to his "charitable" foundation. Since they are all in his cabinet now.


Wait...isn't that very illegal o0?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Pretty much. Trump's ongoing failure to divest himself from his business interests, many of which have active and continual foreign investments, means that from the second he swears the oath of office he will be in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution and will have committed an impeachable offense.

Basically, at any point in time they want Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell can produce articles of impeachment and hurl Trump out of office (since there would probably be almost universal democratic support they wouldn't even need much more than a bare majority of Republicans) and replace him with Mike Pence.

Now, as much as the Republican establishment, of which Ryan and McConnell are pillars, would vastly prefer Pence to Trump, doing so would have huge political costs among the voters and would risk a whole bunch of primary challenges from Trumpist candidates and just a huge backlash among Trump voters generally. Still, if legislative priorities are being blocked by Trump or if Trump is responsible for some massive foreign policy disaster (like if Trump breaks the Iran nuclear deal and come next year there's an underground test somewhere in the desert) I would expect some strategic leaks at the least.
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Well, yeah. Trump may or may not realize it, but Republicans in congress have a gun to his head and can make him only the second President ever to get impeached. Trump can't stand the stain to his ego and 'legacy'. If he's threatened with public failure and humiliation, he'll do whatever they fucking want.
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Well, he's pretty much openly used his position as president elect to secure a favourable political landscape for his future business ventures at least twice now, right? Once definitely with Argentina, once (only probably, I think, but I may be behind the data on that) with Taiwan?

I'm super interested in this theory that the republican establishment is saving this up for a future conflict should Trump go "too far". I'm not even sure what too far would look like? Most of them are quite relaxed about the idea of a Muslim registry with enforced deportation. I don't think many would oppose Pence rounding gay people up into camps, either, especially if he was clever about it and framing it as letting the governor of Alabama or wherever the fuck do it, and then calling this position on the Gay Issue a states right thing. Like, I'm sure they'd profess not to like it, but none of them would actually be at the protests or anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Maxus wrote:
Well, yeah. Trump may or may not realize it, but Republicans in congress have a gun to his head and can make him only the second President ever to get impeached. Trump can't stand the stain to his ego and 'legacy'. If he's threatened with public failure and humiliation, he'll do whatever they fucking want.


Third.

A President is impeached when charges are brought, not when they are convicted.

Andrew Johnson was impeached; Clinton was impeached. Both were acquitted.

Nixon was not impeached - he resigned before he could be and he received a presidential pardon from his successor.
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Hiram McDaniels wrote:
Kaelik wrote:


To be fair, Trump can't possibly avoid meeting with people who donated to his "charitable" foundation. Since they are all in his cabinet now.


Wait...isn't that very illegal o0?


Well what do you mean by illegal?

Is it illegal to appoint someone to a cabinet position if they donated to a charitable fund? No, of course not.

Does it cast significant doubt on the independence of that charity, and perhaps cause an investigation to see if you were using the charity improperly... well it would under normal circumstances, but see, the Trump Foundation already filled out a form saying "we used charity money to buy campaign adds for Trump and pay his staff because we didn't like campaign finance laws that limited donations" on a form to the IRS, so you know, for the entire 12 seconds before every single principled IRS employee is fired, the Trump Foundation should lose 501(c)(3) status.

Is it illegal to sell cabinet positions as President to the highest bidder? Actually no. As Trump is fond of pointing out, there are not ethics regulations on the President at all. Yes, a sane president wouldn't do that, a President who wasn't a blatantly corrupt monster wouldn't do that, but welcome to 2016.

Does it really put new light on all the criticisms of the Clinton Foundation? It shouldn't, anyone with half a brain should have realized all the complaints were lies long ago.
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deaddmwalking wrote:
Maxus wrote:
Well, yeah. Trump may or may not realize it, but Republicans in congress have a gun to his head and can make him only the second President ever to get impeached. Trump can't stand the stain to his ego and 'legacy'. If he's threatened with public failure and humiliation, he'll do whatever they fucking want.


Third.

A President is impeached when charges are brought, not when they are convicted.



Huh, I see. Didn't realize there was that distinction
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Heres some baffling bullshit for you.

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Trump secretary of state eyes $180m payout to cut Exxon ties

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38512036

Yes, technically it is slightly fewer millions of dollars, but does anyone (sane) believe that after 40 years of working for Exxon, and a $180 million payout to 'cut ties,' this fucker is going to be evenhanded when it comes to any issue that benefits himself or Exxon? Especially since the payouts from the $180 million will still be coming while he holds office?

The end of the article is also relevant, for the sheer number of Goldman-Sachs people being packed in to the Cabinet or 'senior advisor' roles.

People who, ironically, wouldn't give Trump time of day a few years back.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/goldman-sachs-power-white-house-231998
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The rise of Goldman is also filled with ironies for Trump, even beyond his recent bashing of Blankfein.

Like many Wall Street banks, Goldman stopped doing business with the real estate mogul years ago, scared off by his bankruptcy filings. Many of the firmís top executives made it clear they preferred Clinton for president.

Old news, I know, but the reversal of fortune for megacorps and big banks is pretty stark. But of course working class Americans, clearly the Donald is truly your friend.


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The existence of a compromising Russian dossier on President-elect Donald Trump has been confirmed by multiple sources, apparently.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Marvel Actors: "We stand for liberal values! Yay progressiveness"

Marvel CEO: "MASTER TRUMP HOW MAY I SERVE YOU"
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So Trump just called CNN "fake news" at an actual press conference. That's... a thing that happened.
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So Trump just called CNN "fake news" at an actual press conference. That's... a thing that happened.


Literally every thing that happened at that press conference was pretty much perfect 1 for 1 exactly what you would expect in a state transitioning to a modern facist state.

Planted reporters who effectively work for the new supreme chancellor asking leading questions about how the new supreme chancellor plans to impose his will on the press? Check.

Supreme Chancellor declaring that now that he has power, he rejects even the concept of accountability? Check.

Supreme Chancellor pursuing personal grudges in front of the national stage just to prove he can? Check.

Laid out array of exhibits that then are never used, just to tease people? Check.

Declared that he was going to keep managing his personal wealth on the side while Supreme Chancellor, and hey, if he intermingles personal wealth and treasury, who cares those are basically the same thing anyway? Check.

When asked if members of his team had connections to foreign government that brought him to power, didn't even answer question and left the room? Check.
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Trump advisor Monica Crowley tweeted a picture of herself in front of the Berlin Wall and said 'Walls work.' Irony is dead and the Trump administration is now literally holding up the symbol Soviet oppression and totalitarianism run amok as a positive template for future actions. The thing about modern conservatism is that all the hyperbole I have ever used falls short in describing how evil and horrible it actually is.

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When was that exactly? I didn't see it skimming her Twitter feed, did someone delete it?
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The tweet is actually a year old, made a bit of a facepalm news a year ago, and has since resurfaced as she is now attached to Trump. If you google "Monica Crowley berlin wall" you'll get the tweet and a bunch of stuff on it.

I mean, the context doesn't really change knowing it's a year old - she was praising a symbol of the Soviet occupation of Germany as a lesson on how to get rid of all the brown people, and now she advises Trump. Great stuff.
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Found it, yeah that just looks bad in any context.
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Because powerful men get away with terrible shit, and even the public domain ones get ignored, and then, when the floodgates open, it turns out there was a goddam flood behind it.
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As far as death and human misery goes, Tobacco is basically World War II grinding on forever with no real sign of stopping in our life times. Death camps and nuclear bombs and stuff are certainly dramatic, but public health crises are always and forever bigger than wars on the global scale.


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While I suppose it could be viewed as sarcasm, it's difficult to believe when it's coming out of her mouth.
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Voss wrote:
Heres some baffling bullshit for you.

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Trump secretary of state eyes $180m payout to cut Exxon ties

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38512036

Yes, technically it is slightly fewer millions of dollars, but does anyone (sane) believe that after 40 years of working for Exxon, and a $180 million payout to 'cut ties,' this fucker is going to be evenhanded when it comes to any issue that benefits himself or Exxon? Especially since the payouts from the $180 million will still be coming while he holds office?


I would hope that a former CEO would be callous enough to treat his old company with a "fuck you, I got mine" attitude. Since any deal he makes for the payout would be legally enforceable no matter what decisions he makes afterward, even if Exxon goes down the shitter as a result of them.

spongeknight wrote:
So Trump just called CNN "fake news" at an actual press conference. That's... a thing that happened.


CNN is a fake news orginization. Bengazi, Emails, Clinton Foundation, all of it fake news covered by CNN.
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hyzmarca wrote:
Voss wrote:
Heres some baffling bullshit for you.

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Trump secretary of state eyes $180m payout to cut Exxon ties

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38512036

Yes, technically it is slightly fewer millions of dollars, but does anyone (sane) believe that after 40 years of working for Exxon, and a $180 million payout to 'cut ties,' this fucker is going to be evenhanded when it comes to any issue that benefits himself or Exxon? Especially since the payouts from the $180 million will still be coming while he holds office?


I would hope that a former CEO would be callous enough to treat his old company with a "fuck you, I got mine" attitude. Since any deal he makes for the payout would be legally enforceable no matter what decisions he makes afterward, even if Exxon goes down the shitter as a result of them.


Your hopes and expectations are bizarre, unfounded, and contrary to any functioning model of human behavior. The Exxon board are still the people he goes drinking, golfing or whoring with. People who he has standing favors with and who owe him favors, and won't have any problems dealing under the table or even (if they're exceptionally principled, which is unlikely) waiting four years to cash in.

He worked for Exxon his entire fucking adult life. Those ties don't magically disappear even or especially with 180 million attached.
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Trump MLK weekend timeline:

1) Trump staff plans MLK day visit to museum celebrating MLK/civil rights, because that's optically, the thing you do.

2) Rep John Lewis, who marched arm in arm with King, and was leading member of civil rights movement, and who sponsored the legislation that built the Museum, says "I don't think [Trump] is a legitimate President."

3) Trump sees that black man insulted him, tweets about how black person is terrible, because his district is crime infested and falling apart, because everyone knows black people are always living in crime infested decaying piles of dirt. (John Lewis represents, broadly, the nice parts of Atlanta, in addition and has multiple universities, and one of the highest education rates in all districts in the entire US.)

4) Trump doubles down like 8 hours later, that he really meant that wherever John Lewis represents is definitely a hellhole, apparently literally, because he refers to it being on fire this time.

5) Trump's team hypes the previously planned Museum trip. People laugh hysterically, because Trump is literally going to museum that exists because of John Lewis, and celebrates John Lewis.

6) Someone informs Trump of this fact. Somehow.

7) Trump cancels trip to MLK museum on MLK day.

EDIT: Apparently for added fucking crazy, there never was a plan in the first place?
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Plane? Where does that fit into the story?

Edit: Got it. Plan.
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So Trump had an interview with European Newspapers. It did not go well.

Gary Kasparov sums it up well.

Trump says we should all do whatever the Kremlin wants. Disband NATO, break up the EU, end sanctions on Russia, whatever. If you were going to make up a list of traitorous policies a Russian agent might support as a Manchurian candidate, it still wouldn't be as blatant as the ones Trump is actually announcing.

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So we have the cocksure ignorance of Dubya with the blustery brinksmanship of Reagan and the appeasement/shady business ties of Harding.

Trump is the apotheosis of the post Nixon Republican Party, with some good old fashioned Teapot Dome style bought loyalty thrown in. It's almost beautiful in its grotesquery.
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