I fully agree that being able to pull super speech should demand a significant investment of resources. I never said that it should be something every 1st level NPC can pull off. The 1st level town guard can't hope to solo that young dragon using only a blunt stick, but the 10th level barbarian should.Ice9 wrote: TL;DR - "Silver tongued snake who can convince people of anything" is a valid archetype. For a particular character. Who invested some class levels and/or feats in it. Not for the majority of people.
And hey, a 1st level wizard can cast Charm Person and eventually Charm Monster and Dominate Humanoid.
Also relevant from another thread:
OgreBattle wrote:Finally, diplomacy rules that workLonges wrote:Intimidation level: 9000