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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

NJPW is more serious and sport-like than WWE
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So, i know the Undertaker has officially ended his career for good . .
Anybody know something about Sting?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Last I heard, that injury was the end of Sting's career.

There have been rumours that the Undertaker might do the occasional match just as a special treat, but not in a way that should be read as "the Undertaker is still wrestling".
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Oh well, there go both my reasons for following anything Wrestling related then.
Thank you.
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They already had a match together... long ago, when the Undertaker was "Callous Mark Calloway". So basically not the dream match you were imagining. But if they wrestled each other today, it wouldn't be that either.

I strongly suggest following NJPW to get enjoyment from wrestling. I live vicariously through Minoru Suzuki's violent rampages against the referees, ring crew/trainee wrestlers, and furniture.
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No, not because of THE DREAM MATCH . . Because those two were most of the time the only reasons i bothered with wrestling at all.
I loved Stings Insane Icon phase. The Mainevent Mafia was meh, but still, Sting commandeers the ring and the audience. Just like the Undertaker. They can both play the hall like a fiddle.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

There's no real chance. Neck and hip injuries aren't something you really come back from at their ages, at least not effectively.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah, i guess . . sads now ._.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rusev going from not having any merch to becoming the top seller on the back of having a shirt out for less than a month gives me hope in these dark times.
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That's pretty rad. Maybe WWE could notice this and give him the push he should have had more than a year ago.

Meanwhile, I am not celebrating Jan 1 - what's so special about that? I am all about January 4, because that's NJPW WrestleKingdom. Featuring:

The Villain (C) vs Kushida vs Hiromu Takahashi vs a catWill Ospreay for the Junior title.
(yes, that magical twitter feud has started again!)

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Tag Titles: Killer Elite Squad (C) vs Sanada and the King of Darkness, EVIL!

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Hirooki Goto vs Minoru Suzuki (C) in a hair versus hair match for the Never Openweight title, with an added stipulation of "no second" - not even Despy will be at ringside (to start with).

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Intercontinental Title: Hiroshi Tanahashi (C) vs Jay White.

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US Title of a Japanese company, defended in Japan, with two Canadians competing: Kenny Omega (C) vs Chris Jericho, DRINK IT IN, MANNNN!

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And for the World Heavyweight Title: "Rainmaker" Kazuchika Okada (C) vs Tetsuya Naito.

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Also some other matches (Ibushi vs Cody, the 6-man Never Openweight multi-battle...), and honestly there's nothing that I'd just call a piss-break.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Cody/Ibushi is interesting due to the fact it might be Cody's next best chance to pull a match higher than 3 stars from Meltzer, after Okada in the States.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Meanwhile, I am not celebrating Jan 1 - what's so special about that? I am all about January 4, because that's NJPW WrestleKingdom.


And it's happening on Rusev Day!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah, I really thought it was Naito's night-o. Turns out I was not right-o. But still, it was an amazing fight-o.

Meanwhile, my condolences to the families of everyone in attendance, presumably murdered by Suzuki after his loss in a great match. I mean, that was a vicious start, and Goto did a great job of selling "being choked out cold", though I was not aware that referees get to call a time out so someone can recover, I was under the impression they either go "Shit, it looks like he's out, ring the bell" or they shrug and let the beatings continue.

But it was a great match, and for a Suzuki match it felt really refreshing somehow. And he made his bed, so he slept in it. Yes, it was a bed of broken chairs and limbs, but he slept in it nonetheless - he shaved his own head. (And going by instagram, still looks amazing).

Spike from BuffyCody and Ibushi put on a great match, and while I'd argue a lot of the work and "great wrestling" was on Ibushi's part (this is pretty standard for Ibushi) Cody still did well, and he and Brandi added some great psychology with that early spot following the tope move.

Omega and Jericho was as good as I expected. I was hoping Don Callous would get hit in the face again because he basically makes up most of the reason why I don't watch with English commentary. There was only one spot of blading (and about four small cases of incidental bleeding. There were also a couple of small incidental cuts in Suzuki v Goto). Also Jericho got to call someone in the audience a fuckface, so I'm pretty sure he got everything he wanted out of life.

KES now do have something that makes them interesting, and a place in the roster: amazing violence. They practically knocked EVIL the fuck out in the first few seconds there (and he sold it really well), they beat the shit out of Young Lions (Suzuki has taught them well), they made it high-impact. They can just have matches with elevated levels of violence and it can work for them.

Well done ZSJ for hooking the leg with the triangle choke to avoid being powerbombed, that was a nice spot. And it got Suzuki-gun the only partial victory of the whole night, eliminating War Machine (each member weighing about 3 or 4 Zacks) and Elgin (an angry potato). Also, with Elgin being in the bad books, I'm surprised he didn't eat the loss for the team. It's like the company doesn't vindictively punish people in the ring for shit that goes on outside the ring. Who knew such a thing could happen?
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Meanwhile, my condolences to the families of everyone in attendance, presumably murdered by Suzuki after his loss in a great match. I mean, that was a vicious start, and Goto did a great job of selling "being choked out cold", though I was not aware that referees get to call a time out so someone can recover, I was under the impression they either go "Shit, it looks like he's out, ring the bell" or they shrug and let the beatings continue.



Ref stupidity is the consistently annoying thing about NJPW. Nobody cares though because Suzuki dropkicks remain excellent.
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Yeah, if the only price I have to pay (well aside from the actual price in money for subscribing) for things like that is "stupid refs" then that's a bargain. And hell, Jericho berated a referee for being stupid.

"One! Two! Three! Four!"
"It's no DQ, idiot!"
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Someone mentioned that the Undertaker's done with wrestling. That saddens me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That it didn't happen four years ago saddens me much more.
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He might do an occasional surprise one-off thing but yeah, he retired, and went out on his back because he's old-school. And even before that, the fact is he was only doing a couple of matches per year.

So, New Year Dash was great. WrestleKingdom was the conclusion of various stories, this was the start of new ones. The inner turmoil of Bullet Club is getting better than ever, as well as the Ibushi-Omega-Cody thing. Switchblade layout out Omega and challenging for the US title was cool, but from an in-character point of view I don't understand the connect between Omega's "I'm sick of the in-fighting, we need to be a whole again." and "So Jay White, come out here and you can join."

Minoru Suzuki seems to have a renewed energy already. He lost his title, he lost his hair, but he regained his love of hurting people. Suzuki-gun vs Assorted Others was a really good match, and the post-match destruction of Tanahashi's knee was both terrifying and delightful. At this point I don't mind if Suzuki picks up the IC title or simply gets disqualified when the time comes and the faction just rampages and makes their presence really felt.

And of course, the final match. Wow. The stakes weren't as high as at WK, but it was entertaining as all fuck. It really was just an awesome match, with all of LIJ there against some of the best of CHAOS. Very smart of Okada to put some tape on the back of his neck as a way of saying "I have an injured neck and it'd be swell if you didn't target that. You'll leave it alone, right?" I don't know if the kinesio tape thing actually has any benefit or is magical voodoo bullshit (same for the suction-cupping that Ospreay does on his back), but it's a great way to advertise a weak point.

Oh, and the beatdown afterwards was a bit of fun. Unnecessary, but fun. Was "Sanada, you deal with Okada" just "it's your turn to hit a finisher", or was it a nod at "It's your turn to challenge for the title"?

And of course, Jericho's attack on Naito. It's great to see him still there getting the reaction and attention he deserves.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

He certainly looks done but well, it's wrestling and it's the Undertaker. On the one hand, Meltzer claims that Undertaker has been doing the "Vince, I"m done" gimmick after every Wrestlemania for well over a decade and history says that he'll be back by the Rumble once he's healed up and remembers how many zeroes are on his checks. On the other hand, he's fucking 52 years old and has jacked up hips, so "healing" is something that no longer really happens. On top of that he was retired by Reigns and I'm sure that's an accomplishment Vince would prefer not to detract from. This really could be the time when Taker says "I want to do WM" and Vince offers him a giant pile of money to be a road agent instead.
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NJPW is coming to Australia! I am going to be there no matter what I have to cancel.
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And bamf. I have a "VIP Meet-n-Greet for cool people who are really awesome and stylish" ticket, where I get to enter early, meet wrestlers and get autographs, visit the merch stall early, and sit at ringside, in the "Suzuki might throw someone at you" area.

That last bit is an actual plus, for the record.
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My reaction to all things Undertaker at this point. \_(ツ)_/
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I heard the 25th thing was a load of piss and shite and didn't even manage to clear the low bar of "remind people of when they liked the WWE only for them to get even more pissed off at what it is now". With Miz winning "his" belt back to ensure that nobody likes the title any more and its reputation as the Inter-Chris-inental title is forgotten, and clearing up Roman Reigns' schedule so he can go and get the big fancy king title and face and beat Bork Laser at Wrestlemania. And the Undertaker... wandering out to say something about as meaningless as a Bray Wyatt rant?

I can see why his druids left him to carry EVIL into the ring in NJPW. They have left the Lord of Darkness for the King of Darkness.
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Apparently they ran two venues at once, presumably to more efficiently torture their live audience.
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