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Cassandra, Cole and Dorian. You get an extra bit of dialogue with them during the party. The later dialogues imply that everyone was at the party, not only the people you brought
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So yeah, I'm soloing dragons now that eat Iron Bull and Cassandra/Blackwall in one hit now.
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Well, I've finished up Adamant, which had the soundtrack accompanied by the rythmic smack of palm against forehead.
The most obvious problem is that the Grey Wardens are literally the only organization in the area which doesn't need help to summon and bind an army of demons. Seriously, we know from Warden's Keep that they've actually done that and it wasn't even against the rules. Also, one would think they'd contact Wiesshaupt before doing that, particularly since there is reason to believe that killing all the Old Gods would be bad.

But why the hell is Corypheus even bothering with that? Can't he mind control Wardens?

Then there's the buisness with the dragon. The characters keep calling it an Archdemon, even though there's no good reason to think that. There is a notable lack of a Sixth Blight, and it'd be pretty stupid to send it anywhere near the only group that can kill it.

Finally, fucking canon Hawke. He goes off on these tirades about Blood Magic like he's completely forgotten Merril existed. I will grant that even an unsabotaged demon army would be an insane gamble, but the Wardens believed it was time for an insane gamble. Then he got pissed at Stroud for the Wardens who helped Corypheus at the Conclave as if he's forgotten mind control is a thing in this setting. I find it appropriate that most of the fear demons who attacked immediately afterwards were named things like "mages", "demons", "blood magic", and so on. I'll grant that his objections make a bit more sense if he doesn't know Archdemons are impossible to kill without Grey Wardens.

Also kind of wish the raw fade had been a bit more acid trip.
The post-mission judgement section was pretty satisfying, though.
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I made the same judgment, because fuck that guy. Even Cole says he's "just an arsehole".
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Same. If I don't get to do cruel and unusual punishments, then what's even the point of the game?
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Pissing off whiny MRAs because gay and female characters have more romance options than straight male ones?
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
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Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Also, I question whether one of his personal quests is topical or pandering:
I think I'm gonna go with "pandering". At no point in any of the games did anyone say a single thing about homosexuality (an option which both Warden and Hawke had) or women "acting like men" (Aveline, Cassandra, femWarden and femHawke). Yes, Cassandra has a clear romantic side, but she is hiding it, so as far as the whole world (and Varric) concerned, there's no real difference between her and Krem. We can attribute everything to Tevinter being the evil empire of evil, but still. Prior to this discussions we never saw those issues actually existing.
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I was starting to like Sera a bit more, so I decided to try to romance her. I now hate the moody asshole now. Here's a list of things that piss Sera off:

1. Making good decisions in regards to how the inquisition is run.

Yeah, that's basically it. She gets pissed off at everything I do, so fuck her. Next character, I romance Iron Bull.
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Like I said before, Sera's main emotion is "RAWR! NOBLES! SERA SMASH!" She doesn't care about politics, so when you have to actually interact with people in a sensible manner she gets pissy.
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Okay, so I beat the game.
So, the corypheus fight was nowhere near as cool as it was in DA:2. Also, Corypheus caught a bad case of The Batman Voice (tm), when his original VA was so much better in my opinion. Then again, it might have been that I had three characters with 300% focus and I told them to go the fuck off during the last phase of the fight. Didn't last too much longer. The only thing I had to laugh at was when I remembered one of Varric's quips during the DA:2 fight: "If he pulls a dragon out of his ass I'm leaving..."

So yeah. Flemeth is actually Mythal, and Solas was Fen'Harel. whoever earlier in this thread that said Solas knew too much to be a random apostate was on the mark...
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Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Okay, so I beat the game.
So, the corypheus fight was nowhere near as cool as it was in DA:2. Also, Corypheus caught a bad case of The Batman Voice (tm), when his original VA was so much better in my opinion. Then again, it might have been that I had three characters with 300% focus and I told them to go the fuck off during the last phase of the fight. Didn't last too much longer. The only thing I had to laugh at was when I remembered one of Varric's quips during the DA:2 fight: "If he pulls a dragon out of his ass I'm leaving..."

So yeah. Flemeth is actually Mythal, and Solas was Fen'Harel. whoever earlier in this thread that said Solas knew too much to be a random apostate was on the mark...
My main reason for suspicion was his knowledge of ancient elven, and the way he instantly refused to use the Well
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I had the mage knowledge perk and knew more about the well than Morrigan did and explained in great detail why her idea was bad and she should feel bad. So yeah, I was like "you first". And "Geas" rhymes with "gas". I literally had no idea.
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I always thought it was "Gees".

Like...Geese with z sound on the end.
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It's usually read as "Gis" or "Gais". That word is very confusing.

Mage knowledge doesn't actually make you know more than Morrigan. You are just not as rash, and sense obvious danger from placing yourself under the will of a thousand dead elves.
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I like my interpretation better.
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So, Longes and Count, what are your final thoughts on the game? No spoilers, plz, unless it's something that we very much need to know. Like a dead-end build or if the game pulls a Chrono Cross.
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I liked most of it. The main plotline is solid, the characters are likable, the music is good and the game is fun to play. But. The sidequests are fucking terrible. Pretty much everything unrelated to the main plotline is a soul crushing grind. I skipped most side areas in Act 2 and 3, and don't regret my decision. It's just incredibly immersion breaking when everyone talks about your time being precious and you being a busy Inquisitor, but then you get a quest to deliever flowers to someone's grave, or hunt down ten rams (who don't even attack you). I'd write it down to some Jesus metaphor and Inquisitor being down with the common folk, but it's just tedious.

Overall, I don't regret the money I spent on the game. I like it less than 2, but more than 1.

P.S. another bit of right hand not knowing up whose ass the left hand is comes in one of the Iron Bull's skits. He dresses you as a common soldier, and takes you to meet some other soldiers, and listen their oppinion on the Inquisitor. Big deal is made out of the fact that common people don't know your face, and you are an ideal to them, rather than a flesh and blood being.
Except every other person in the game does know that you are the Inquisitor. Even the Dalish elves camping in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. But your own soldiers can't recognise you. Blegh.
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I've heard it's quite similar to Suikoden II, especially with the army building portion of the game.

Is there also anything like "leading armies on the field of battle" in DA3?
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Unfortunately not. I mean, your army shows up during important big fights and it seems to be affected by your choices, but there's no proper mass combat minigame.
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They nerfed Knight enchanter already. Spirit Blade doesn't trigger spell combos anymore. >:(
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Ah well, that wasn't really all that important anyway.

Honestly the real balance issue is that the barrier generation is too high. I think when they decided on a value to set it to, they forgot that you can continuously spam a 300% of weapon damage attack that ignores armor and is rarely resisted.
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So I'm up to the quest with the WARNING: No turning back notification, and have decided that before taking that on I'm going to do companion quests and gather enough material to give myself a top-end dragonbone staff. I've done Varric's and Dorian's so far and have opinions.
I don't think Dorian's was all that outlandish. I mean, when he explained that the family fight was over him being gay, one of the dialogue options was basically "and that's a problem why?" and he explained that Tevinter is basically running a mage breeding program. You can see why they might consider being gay a problem for that.

Varric's was fun, but the big plot revelation made basically no sense. Red Lyrium has the Blight? The Primeval Thaig was lost before the First Blight, apparently because of that idol. And this game confirms that Darkspawn almost certainly don't predate the Golden City expedition. Furthermore, Lyrium is found in the Deep Roads, which are overrun by Darkspawn. Red Lyrium should have been around in vast quantity since before the creation of the Chantry.

I was honestly pretty sure it was made by dwarven mages and is connected to the reason there haven't been any in recorded history, which the Primeval Thaig predates.
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So, I just got Dragon Age 2 for my xbox 360 (yes, I know it's on origin on PC, no, I'm not going to get origin, fuck that), and I was wondering if you guys had any tips to pass on, particularly for a mage PC?
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Lots of things to watch for. One big one is that in very nearly every fight, a bunch of assholes will teleport in halfway through to attack you from behind. Usually at least twice.

Also, your dispelling and casting-disruption powers work on any kind of buff. This is valuable later in the game when enemy commanders like to buff everyone on the field.
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There's a also a glitch on the 360 (that I know of) that prevents you from recruiting one of the optional party members, the hot pirate woman. I suggest you check a wiki or something to make sure you don't miss out, unless you don't care.
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