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Angel Base Clase: Celestial Initiate [Tome of Virtue?]

 
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Grek
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:33 pm    Post subject: Angel Base Clase: Celestial Initiate [Tome of Virtue?] Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Originally posted here, but I'd really love comment from the rest of the Den.
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But more importantly if you elevate jerkishness into a principle, if you try to undermine the rules that keep niceness, community, and civilization going, the defenses against social cancer then your movement will fracture, it will be hugely embarrassing, the atmosphere will become toxic, unpopular people will be thrown to the mob, everyone but the thickest-skinned will bow out, and the people you need to convince will view you with a mixture of terror and loathing.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So... Outside of Valor and getting +1 to attack and damage, you are basically a fucking warrior in combat. Warriors are pretty pathetic, and this covers levels 1-8. That is pathetic. If I thought we were ever going to fight anything ever, much less four encounters a day, I would never play this class.
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Grek
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

At level 1, you're showing up with good saves all around, full BaB, the ability to pray for info from the DM and a occasionally useful magic power. In combat, you mostly hit people with your sword/bow/whatever and like it because being a fighter is not bad at levels 1-4 in D&D. They don't scale well, but putting a greatsword into someone is perfectly reasonable when you're fighting ogres and wights. At level 5 (around the point you're starting to feel small in the pants next to 3rd level spells), you get some genuinely useful magic power off the following list:

  • Conjure walls of wood or stone at will, and knock gnomes on their asses with wind.
  • Enough divinations to handle most low level plots and occasionally true strike people.
  • Spam Shout at people and recruit a bear into the party. Ignore doors, talk to anything.
  • Touch attack someone to force a will save vs. stop fighting. Be the party healer.
  • Give everybody Good Hope (AKA +2 to everything) and open all the locks.
  • Spam Persistent Image with a +2 bonus to your save DC. Pass out Goodberries.
  • Give the party +2 AC, +3 attack, +2 to saves and maybe +3 damage. Take an extra +2 AC for yourself.
Later, you basically ignore the fact that you were originally a fighter and just start spamming SLAs at will.
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But more importantly if you elevate jerkishness into a principle, if you try to undermine the rules that keep niceness, community, and civilization going, the defenses against social cancer then your movement will fracture, it will be hugely embarrassing, the atmosphere will become toxic, unpopular people will be thrown to the mob, everyone but the thickest-skinned will bow out, and the people you need to convince will view you with a mixture of terror and loathing.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Where are these SLAs coming from? Unless you're Creation you mostly don't even have any that are useful in combat time.
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