[D&D] Recruiting: TotFIE

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:29 pm

Ah, shit. I didn't think about that. I wanted to use the "Sphere-lock". I forgot it wasn't an original Tome class.

Is this warlock class acceptable?

Edit: if it's not, I'm looking at your Totemist spec'ed out for social combat.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:Ah, shit. I didn't think about that. I wanted to use the "Sphere-lock". I forgot it wasn't an original Tome class.

Is this warlock class acceptable?

Edit: if it's not, I'm looking at your Totemist spec'ed out for social combat.

Yeah, that one is fine. Frankly, most of the Warlock variants people have made are passable from a game balance standpoint (the original in CompArc is crap, so people tend to take the class and give it modest to substantial power boosts, which rarely overpowers it). I just needed to know what you were doing.

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Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:13 pm

Ok, cool. I stupidly forgot to save my character sheet this morning before going to bed, so I'll have to re-enter some stuff. Expect my character to be done ~10am PST, as I have a doctor's appointment in about half an hour.

Korgan0 · Post by **Korgan0** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:38 pm

Sorry, guys, but I'm going to have to bow out. I look forward to reading the game logs.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:22 pm

OK, is first alternate Maxus still ready to go?

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Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:42 pm

Completely forgot about tome armors, so I went back in and penciled in a suit of Darkleaf. Not that it really matters. He's a half point away from getting the fast healing 1 and can already bad touch himself for health anyway. Still, spooky fey creature, darkleaf armor--I'm sure you can do the math.

We should probably talk goals. Silas was raised by evil fey in whatever part of the Korbahl happens to do the best impression of the Bane Mires. It sucked and he often hated it but nevertheless he is against Hoggish Greedly-style total devastation on the grounds that he doesn't think humanity can win that fight due in part to things being interdependent but mostly because D&D nature is way savage and filled with people like his mom who will absolutely kick your monkey ass after blinding you with their boobs. Anyway, like a college kid finally escaping the boonies, Silas has been doing his level best to roll Toreador style--art, music, wine and women in slinky cocktail dresses who also like art, music and wine are his favorite things in some order. The connection between standard of living and the availability of drunk women who make art and wear slinky dresses all the time has not been lost on him, which is a problem because the Korbahl has always been a half step away from being renamed Podunkistan even in the best of times. It is making it really hard for Silas to get his Eurotrash on.

Also, we doing background bonuses at all? I'd be all up in moil wrought for obvious reasons.

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:45 pm

Second alternate Omegon is, though that counts for very little.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:01 pm

FrankTrollman wrote:OK, is first alternate Maxus still ready to go?

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No, he's not.

I hereby move myself to Second Alternate and let the guy who actually did a character sheet have a crack at it. I've got to go to work in thirty minutes, and have to get a couple things done before then, so I can't whip one up right now.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:42 pm

Alright, so here is Thane's completed character sheet.

Running items by you Frank:
Cloak of Greater Mage Armour (Spell Compendium)
Fancy Clothing as minor +Bluff item
Ring of Summon Monster 3
Three bottles of a high quality wine to use as bribes/gifts/discuss politics over each costing three times the "fine" quality wine in PHB (so, 30g each)
A set of crystal goblets to drink said wine with?

As for backstory-
Thane is the lost son of a disappeared noble from [human city state of outer Derpistan]. The benighted man fell in love with a remarkably smart and beautful "for an orc" female orc who saved his life from the savage wildlife of The Korbahl. The noble sent word back home telling them what happened, and to not pursue him. Thane has now appeared, 30 years later, bearing the magically influential ring of this disappeared noble, claiming his heritage and inheritance. Supposedly he is entitled to some plot of land in Outer Derpistan (hence his name), but he is working on making his own reputation in The Korbahl before going abroad to find whatever "pissant human manor (his) unknown relatives won't want to give (him) anyway." The ring does tend to lend credence to his story, and the fact that he looks much like this disappeared noble doesn't hurt either, just... you have to look past the exceedingly sharp teeth and vestigal wings. (His mother was mostly Orc, but had a touch of beautiful outsider to her, and his father's family hides its own legacy of fiendish dalliances engaged in for magical and terrestrial power).
Basically I'm trying for the same benefits as Royalty of a Fallen Nation if we are doing Character Backgrounds.

Grek · Post by **Grek** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:49 pm

Whipstitch wrote:Speaking of evil, we should probably talk goals.

Ok.

Before the market crash, Alexander worked collections for the bank of Badger & Foonwhist. His job was to track down people who aren't making their payments on time and get them to start making payments again. Using crossbow bolts and undead lawyers. He liked his job - it paid very well, so he got to wear drow-woven spider silk suits and indulge his occasional desire for goblin liver and onions. Now that his former employers have gone bankrupt, he's out of a job and out of money. He's forced to leave his beloved monstrous spider caviar as a rare once-a-month treat and doesn't get to wear tailored clothes at all. Snapfuse wants things to go back to how they were before the crash. He wants people to trust the banks again and he wants to have a steady income that can support his extravagant lifestyle. Teaming up to start a business, fix the economy and get the money flowing again sounds like the perfect opportunity.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:06 pm

Thane's main motivation is to just improve the standing of The Korbahl. He has a vague interest in claiming the inheritance he supposedly is entitled to, but that's a longer term goal. He figures that if he improves an economy then his human relatives will more readily take him in. The fact that any family of wealthy debutantes would eagerly latch on to a sentient black pudding so long as it was independently wealthy and successful and brought them fame and influence by association is a great contributor in this.
He actually grew up enjoying a decently high quality of life as his father did have supporters in The Korbahl, and his mother was a fairly capable hunter with gifts from the infernal side of her family, so they did ok for themselves. And, like Snapfuse, the downturn in the economy has taken that away from him. People don't realize that his tendency to eat three the equal of three orcs' daily calories isn't just aristocratic indolence, it's also the fuel for the infernal engine inside of him.

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:10 pm

Whipstitch wrote:We should probably talk goals.

Well, prior to his possibly-vision, John's primary concern was trying to forget the miserable hand fate had dealt him, to the point that he'd graduated from alcohol to liquid pain - from a luxuriant life as a funded academy member he went to a basically nonexistent job market in Nodral followed by six economies in ruins in Central Derpistan. Post vision, he wants to become the de facto ruler/messiah of a new Derpian Empire, though de jure can very much slide - for his own ego's sake, for the excuse to commit the atrocities he suspects it will require, and out of a belief that with his Knowledge (All The Things) he can set matters right better than any of the current leaders. This would also give him the power needed to break the old, stagnant aristocracy of Nodral - but a ladder is climbed one rung at a time.

Of course, coming from Nodral he probably has somewhat of a more backward outlook than some, but that's a roleplay subtlety - being a trained necromancer he's well aware that the threat of powerful undead creatures will cow more people than a standing army of weak ones.

Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:56 pm

I swapped Know. Arcana to the Bluff skill for the lies and synergy bonuses. Not being able to talk blows super hard, especially in forum games.

flare22 · Post by **flare22** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:58 pm

can my character have been in the the blood war so he can take the blood war squadie fiend feat?

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:00 pm

flare22 wrote:can my character have been in the the blood war so he can take the blood war squadie fiend feat?

Sure.

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Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:09 pm

What kind of price tag would be attached to registering a limited-liability corporation? I'm thinking "security contracting and troubleshooting", which might involve more expensive licenses than just a spider ranching or lumber operation. Would this be the sort of thing better left to pursuit once the game starts?

What about recruiting some unemployed Korbahl orcs as archers and more-skilled-than-zombie labor? Food and equipment provided by employer, plus some kind of wage.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:39 pm

Prak wrote:Cloak of Greater Mage Armour (Spell Compendium)
Fancy Clothing as minor +Bluff item
Ring of Summon Monster 3

What is a Ring of Summon Monster 3?
Also, what is a Cloak of Greater Mage Armor?

I don't see how you could get infinite access to 3rd level spells as Minor Magic Items no matter how it's sliced. A Minor Magic item costs as much as four scrolls of Summon Monster 3. I'm not sure what you're doing, but it's hard for me to imagine that being a reasonable interpretation of anything.

Getting Fancy Clothing as a +Bluff item seems totally reasonable though.

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flare22 · Post by **flare22** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:53 pm

ok here is my finished character Hocus Runeshmitt sorry for the wait

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.p ... tid=612737

i decided against the blood war thing he was a forth generation member of Lolthwyr's mages guild who was wrongfully terminated from his job after setbacks in the economy now he travels and sell his services as a mage as well as various wares he also works as a caravan guard or as a mercenary when he's desperate he prefers not to do mercenary work because he is against using violence except in self defense

flare22 · Post by **flare22** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:10 am

hocus's short term goal is personal fincial security and his long term goal is to help his homeland recover economicaly

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:20 am

Fuck, I can't keep track of what from the pdf is yours and what is from other people. Alright, give me a few and I'l figure it out.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:25 am

Well, fuck. I think I'll have to withdraw. My computer--MY computer--has a hard drive failure today, and it won't even start and I don't have the means to fix it right now.

I'm bumming the use of someone else's to drop a few notices--like this--but I'll be around only sporadically.

Dean · Post by **Dean** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:40 am

By the transitive property that makes me FIRST alternate Dean! Sweet sweet promotion. This is like coming in 4th at the Olympics, I can almost touch the dais from here.

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:43 am

Prak_Anima wrote:Fuck, I can't keep track of what from the pdf is yours and what is from other people. Alright, give me a few and I'l figure it out.

Minor items give a scaling bonus, Lesser Items give a scaling bonus AND either a constant ability or a spell. There are clauses in place to avoid Lesser items with "juggling" spells, like stunlocks or many summons.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:51 am

Alright, I can't even sort it right now. I was using the Tome pdf. In magic items it says "Minor Magic Items which do not provide a numeric benefit usually reproduce the eect of a spell, and are caster level 5 or less."
It gives no spell level, and I have no clue at this point who wrote that part or where it comes from.
I had in mind that a "Ring of Summon Monster 3" was a magic item that just let you cast Summon Monster 3 at Caster Level 5 and that a Cloak of Greater Mage Armour was the same, just with Greater Mage Armour.

Would a Cloak which allows you to cast Mage Armour at CL5 work better? Instead of the Ring of Summon Monster 3, how about just a Ring of Charisma enhancement?

Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:57 am

So, I was looking back at Avo's zombie pricing discussion and now I want a clarification. He seems to be assuming a gp cost per hit die even though as far as I can tell his undead would be created via the Body Assemblage feat. That leads me to suspect one of these scenarios is taking place:

1. For the purposes of this campaign, Body Assemblage now has a material component cost as per Animate Dead.

2. Body Assemblage has a material component limitation for the purposes of character generation only, so that necromancers may start with a reasonable amount of undead without everyone first getting into a pissing match over how much graverobbing we can assume a PC committed in their purely hypothetical past adventures.

3. Avo's charging himself money for no reason aside from a personal code of sandbagging.

4. I'm an idiot and misunderstood something. Options include an existing Body Assembly cost that I simply failed to notice, or maybe Avo was merely charging himself for the equipment said bugbear skeletons would be using, etc.

I also have Body Assemblage so it'd be good to know as I decide what to do with my last bits of petty cash. If it costs anything I'll probably leave my assets liquid for now, since that could just as easily be handy in Logistics & Dragons.