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DrPraetor
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:11 am    Post subject: [Dom 5] Denizens - 6/6 players, STARTED Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Game URL:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Denizens1C

Ah, it did. So in case you haven't used llamserver in a while, you send an e-mail to pretenders@llamaserver.net with Denizens1C as the subject and with your pretender (the .2h file in Dominions5\savedgames\newlords ) attached.

Thanks to GreatGreyShrike for suggesting the indie map generator.

Name - Denizens

Type - llamaserver PBEM (Play By EMail)

Schedule - 24 Hrs/Turn until turn 12; then 36h/turn; liberal extension policy

Players - 6

Age - MA

Game Type - Free for All (i.e., no disciples/teams)

Mods - None
1 vote for Worthy Heroes, 2 vote against, 3 abstentions.

Map -

https://ufile.io/9vlwo

generated by...
https://corbeau.itch.io/cartographic-revision


Victory Condition - Thrones
N = Equal to number of players, N/3 will be 1 pt, N/3 will be 2 pt, N/3 will be 3 pt, rounding in favor of lower pt thrones.
N+1 points to win.
Do we want a cataclysm timer?

General Rules - None

Diplomacy - Anything goes

Binding Trades - No, mainly because I don't want to be in the business of enforcing them.

Nation Selection - First come first served.

Magic Sites - Default
Score Graphs - Off
Random Events - Common
Story Events - Off
Research - Default
Indie Strength - Default
Money - Default
Resources - Default
Supplies - Default
Re-naming - ON
Hall of Fame - 15 entries
Human AI level: Impossible
Hopefully this won't come up.
Enchantment Slots - 5

Players / Nations:
Red_Rob / MA Man
GreatGreyShrike / C'tis
angelfromanotherpin / Sceleria
K / Bandar Log
DrPraetor / Pythium
Grek / Marignon
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

What does the FFA mean in the Era line?

Also, one vote for no mods.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

K wrote:
What does the FFA mean in the Era line?

Also, one vote for no mods.


Free-for-all (so not a disciples game).

Is it clearer now?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

DrPraetor wrote:
K wrote:
What does the FFA mean in the Era line?

Also, one vote for no mods.


Free-for-all (so not a disciples game).

Is it clearer now?


Yes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'll take MA Man.

I'd be fine with Worthy Heroes.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'll take MA C'tis. I'd be happy with all proposed settings.

I don't mind one way or the other about Worthy Heroes. I don't have experience with how Cataclysm timers play out in multiplayer so I don't feel strongly about it either.

I suggest that we also have # of globals be a function of number of players we get. Maybe 5 slots for 6 players, + 1 for every two players beyond that we get?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Gimme Sceleria.

Worthy Heroes is cool and I already have it installed, so I'm for it.
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Bandar Log
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Updates are in bold in the original post.

It would be nice to get started over the weekend and get the first few turns in. Can anyone wrangle a sixth player? Alternatively I can generate a map with an unused 6th start position, although this would be unfair to whomever has fewer neighbors.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Nevermind stretching myself too much.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Put me in for Marignon
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But more importantly if you elevate jerkishness into a principle, if you try to undermine the rules that keep niceness, community, and civilization going, the defenses against social cancer then your movement will fracture, it will be hugely embarrassing, the atmosphere will become toxic, unpopular people will be thrown to the mob, everyone but the thickest-skinned will bow out, and the people you need to convince will view you with a mixture of terror and loathing.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That's 6!

Grek - yeah or nay on Worthy Heroes?

I generated the map and uploaded it here:
http://www.llamaserver.net/createDom5Game.cgi

The name of the map is Denizens1C. It was the prettiest of the three maps I generated.

I'll open the game for pretender submission in the morning.

I won't wish you good luck, because that's bad luck and anyway you are all doomed!

P.S. doomed!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I can't download the map, the link goes to this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Oh, oops.

Try this?

https://ufile.io/9vlwo

Doomed!
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Nay on worthy heroes because I am lazy and don't want to download shit.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Denizens1C
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In the game settings, you have it as:

Number of level 1 thrones: 3
Number of level 2 thrones: 3
Number of level 3 thrones: 3

Surely those should be 2 each?
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Oops. You're right!

EDIT: and fixed.
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Waiting on angelfromanotherpin for Sceleria, then I'll start it, unless I made another mistake with the settings Smile.
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And it's started. Good luck everyone! You are all DOOMED!

I'll turn the game timer on as soon as the first turn has hosted, in case there are technical difficulties.

gmail put my pretender acknowledgement in Spam, so if you haven't gotten the first turn, check your spam folder.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Can you even call this a Denizens' game if Frank is not on it being attacked on turn 5?
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I'll drag him into the Densciples game when I start that.
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Hello, delicious neighbors, Man and Sceleria!
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Comments like that make me wish I had found even a single province that produces scouts.
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The communion sends our greetings and congratulations to our neighbors as well: Bandar Log, C'tis, and Sceleria.

Although your doom is pre-ordained by the True God, Knife Bright Insight, such a reckoning may reasonably be delayed through diplomatic measures.

--a3ws3, First of the Communion, Voice of Knife Bright Insight
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