Look, John McCain said during the 2008 U.S. Presidential election that he wanted to keep the Iraq War II going indefinitely. Or, hell, just look at the very existence of Iraq War II. Sure, assholes like Hillary Clinton and John Kerry voted for it out of cravenness, but I seriously doubt that there would still be a runup to the war if Gore was in the Presidential hot seat, 9/11 or no. I don't have a smoking gun of Romney going 'we'll be having war with Iran if I get elected' but he has definitely been making those noises.Winnah wrote:How is American foreign policy any different under the two parties? I don't see any real difference.
You'll get no disagreement with me that Obama's foreign policy is still way too imperial and heavy-handed compared to what it could be. And this vein runs through the entire Democratic Party -- even Elizabeth Warren is a frickin' war hawk. But there is no doubt that the Republican Party has been way worse.
Oh, I get it now. It's not about saving or improving human lives in abstract, it's about saving particular kinds of lives. Who cares whether one political philosophy has openly shilled for ending American food stamps (thus damning at least thousands of people to death by starvation) -- both of them advocate a policy that kills people in the hundreds to thousands so they're both equally bad and culpable.Winnah wrote:Your politicians stance on abortion means fuck all to me, when the majority seem to be unopposed to high collateral drone executions and keeping soldiers in poppy fields, to protect the heroin trade.
If you want to play the humanitarian 'all lives are important' game in order to judge moral consequences and behavior, all human lives are important. You compare numbers and only numbers. Otherwise you're just a tribalist who is trying to hide their tribalism through frame-flipping.