How do you handle sexuality in your RPGs?

Fuchs · Post by **Fuchs** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:46 am

I am not sure I'd like to play RPGs with someone who has no trouble with violence being a central part of the game but considers any sexual content "squicky" (given the same level of detail for both aspects).

Molochio · Post by **Molochio** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:13 pm

Stabbing other sentient creatures in the face and taking their belongings is FUN. I believe that's something we can all appreciate, yes?
However, if you introduce scenarios that include an elven maiden letting out a breathy sigh and clenching the satin sheets tightly as you thrust slowly into her burying yourself to the hilt, some people are bound to become uncomfortable.

Hence sexual content = squick.

Fuchs · Post by **Fuchs** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:22 pm

Molochio wrote:Stabbing other sentient creatures in the face and taking their belongings is FUN. I believe that's something we can all appreciate, yes?
However, if you introduce scenarios that include an elven maiden letting out a breathy sigh and clenching the satin sheets tightly as you thrust slowly into her burying yourself to the hilt, some people are bound to become uncomfortable.

Hence sexual content = squick.

I'd rather consider people who become uncomfortable when sexual content (especially in a non-graphic way) is included in an RPG but consider violence fun (double that if they are ok with graphic violence) as "squick".

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:28 pm

I think that's typical of Americans. You can see it bleed through our bizarre rating system on movies and video games. From what I understand, Europe is sort of the opposite.

Fuchs · Post by **Fuchs** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:12 pm

Yeah, Europe is all crazy about how evil "killergames" are.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:20 pm

Ultimately it's one of the 43,812 reasons why we make fun of Americans.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:39 pm

You make fun of us now, but when boobs have taken over the planet, you'll see that we were right all along.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:40 pm

but when boobs have taken over the planet

We may already be too late

[Insert IMG of any politician here]

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:24 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:You make fun of us now, but when boobs have taken over the planet, you'll see that we were right all along.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS GLORIOUS DAY

JigokuBosatsu · Post by **JigokuBosatsu** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:24 pm

I, for one, welcome our new boobie overlords.

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:24 am

I guess there is only so much I can say about the evils of boobs when my GF wears an L cup bra (that's technically too small a cup size but that's what she could find. Not really something you can buy off the rack.)

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:05 pm

Molochio wrote:Stabbing other sentient creatures in the face and taking their belongings is FUN. I believe that's something we can all appreciate, yes?
However, if you introduce scenarios that include an elven maiden letting out a breathy sigh and clenching the satin sheets tightly as you thrust slowly into her burying yourself to the hilt, some people are bound to become uncomfortable.

Hence sexual content = squick.

Or just that most guys have no interest in the Harlequin Romance novels. They are for housewives who aren't getting enough and look to the pool-boy, or mailman, or whatever for that extra action.

Fuck the Bar Maid, may be sold in porn stores, but not Walmart for a reason, not everyone wants to play Fuck the Bar Maid, as that is not the type of story they are looking for.

It is simple as that, that the type of story wanted isnt a fuckventure.

If you want to sit around watch a porn and have a circle jerk, i will find another group to game with. Cause you are playing something i have no interest in. My life isnt about trying to fuck everything that walks, so not a game or part thereof i would want to play or be a part of.

Like half-orc creation Method 1, leave it in the background if you need it.

Liking disemboweling someone, the level of detail and graphics of the game is not about comfort, but how much time are really going to waste describing each goblin disemboweled, and likewise each kobold bent over and fucked up the ass?

You could spend the little game time had getting on with the game where detailed things interesting to maybe only one person doesnt detract from the game for everyone else.

Take it to something less graphical from sex or killing, and how much time would you devote to describing building that boat you need? Would the whole game session turn into an episode of New Yankee Workshop because of crafting skills?

You don't discuss every swing of the sword to cut down the trees and delimb then to make the raft, etc. You just say you cut down some trees and make a raft an TIME PASSES, until viola you have a raft, now you can actually use it to get on to where you were going.

Its the wasted details on things that do not further the game or story, is where the problem lies most.

Every story ever told, and every movie has characters, you don't detail the act of conceiving and the birth of those characters prior to them coming into play, it just happened, off-screen. Like the raft-building, disemboweling goblins and raping kobolds all should as well.

Did the sex scene in Lethal Weapon really add to the story, or just give something to get people into the theatres? The story didnt benefit form it, only the revenue. There is no money to gain from playing the game, only time to be lost and wasted, just like the movie after the first few times seeing it. They got into a relationship, Riggs cared about someone and they got killed and his character flipped. A wedding could have had the same affect as the sex scene to show the connection, or just saying some way that he was happy, such as was done in later installments with Renee Russo.

Hell even the Harry Potter stories cut parts out with its overarching theme of love because it was taking away from the story where the kids were making out in the carriages.

So things that take away from the main story end up on the cutting room floor, or are reduce to off-screen so the story can continue and be told in the alloted time, just like a game.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:28 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:I guess there is only so much I can say about the evils of boobs when my GF wears an L cup bra (that's technically too small a cup size but that's what she could find. Not really something you can buy off the rack.)

No pun intended, huh?

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:25 pm

Yeah, I'm not particularly into working through frustration issues with the almost exclusively male socially maladjusted, thanks.

What's particularly disturbing is when there actually is a girl or two at the table and someone mistakenly believes being prurient is somehow titillating.

That said, being light-handed with things like seduction or debauchery between adventures is fine. Relationships, too, as long as it doesn't veer into wish-fulfillment bullshit.

Molochio · Post by **Molochio** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:13 am

When one opens the door to sexuality in a rpg and adds any degree of wish fulfillment, it unavoidably results in someone's PC being brutally raped in the ass, as many people are inclined to perverse wishes that must often be suppressed due to social or societal repercussions related to their open expression.

RelentlessImp · Post by **RelentlessImp** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:13 am

I make my players play F.A.T.A.L. The subject stops coming up after.

Fuchs · Post by **Fuchs** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:52 am

Molochio wrote:When one opens the door to sexuality in a rpg and adds any degree of wish fulfillment, it unavoidably results in someone's PC being brutally raped in the ass, as many people are inclined to perverse wishes that must often be suppressed due to social or societal repercussions related to their open expression.

Perverse wishes such as killing people and taking their stuff? Or killing them to boost one's ego?

Molochio · Post by **Molochio** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:02 pm

The wish to kill an individual for the aquisition of their material possessions is not perverse nor is it particularly related to sexuality, unless the killer views persons solely as additional objects of desire to also be taken and used for whatever purpose.
Of course, not all killers do so to appease their ego.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:57 am

Wait, by including sexual content in my games, Shadzar is guaranteed not to be there? AWESOME.

I am going to patent Shadzar-repellant. Maybe an aerosol can that sprays something that, on the molecular level, kind of looks like a penis. Is there a Chemist in the house?

On a (slightly) more serious note, it seems like Nebuchadnezzar and Molochio game with people who would make it unpleasant. I don't. I tend to game with these people I call friends.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:29 am

This thread is a comedy goldmine.

DragonChild · Post by **DragonChild** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:35 am

Koumei wrote:Wait, by including sexual content in my games, Shadzar is guaranteed not to be there? AWESOME.

I am going to patent Shadzar-repellant. Maybe an aerosol can that sprays something that, on the molecular level, kind of looks like a penis. Is there a Chemist in the house?

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/Pro ... CONCAT_PNO

(copy-paste the link)

Starmaker · Post by **Starmaker** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:23 am

So...
It took you six minutes to locate a molecule that looks like a penis, post a message and edit it in an attempt to fix the link.
Oh, the magic of the Internet.
And now my search history is forever stained with "molecule that looks like a penis".

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:41 pm

Well I now have a hunch we'll be fighting a giant construct represented by 33 blocks arranged to match that molecular diagram in the upcoming hotsprings session of the Sharn Watch game?

Quantumboost · Post by **Quantumboost** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:28 pm

Josh_Kablack wrote:Well I now have a hunch we'll be fighting a giant construct represented by 33 blocks arranged to match that molecular diagram in the upcoming hotsprings session of the Sharn Watch game?

Transcripts plz

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:37 pm

Now that's how you handle sexuality in your games. With a molecule. and by molecule i mean Penis.