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[Kaelik]

4 BoG items

Are you okay with the new items I added in my Tome Errata thread?

IE: +1/3rd level to CL and Save DCs?

[ubernoob]

Is it ok if I just advance this guy and restat accordingly?

Andrew Jackson

Neutral Good Human Paladin 1
Male, Middle Aged (see: too lazy to check the age chart)
Deity: Pelor
Background: Royalty of the Fallen Nation (I expect free drinks everywhere I go)

Str 10 (+0)
Dex 10 (+0)
Con 12 (+1)
Int 14 (+2)
Wis 16 (+3)
Cha 16 (+3)

HP: 9/9 DR 1/Adamantine, Fire Resist 5, Cold Resist 5, Acid Resist 3
Init: +0
Speed: 20' (30 out of armor)
AC: 24 (10 base +0 Dex +11 armor +3 shield)
Flat 24
Touch 10

BAB/Grapple: +1/+1 Constant Freedom of Movement
Has edge if opponent has less dex and wis than my wis

Fort +3 Immune to poison
Ref +2
Will +3

Features:
Aura of Good
Healing Touch (3/3)
Exorcism
Personal Warding
Turn Undead (6/6)
Weapon Proficiency: Paladin
Armor Proficiency: Paladin

Feats:
Product of Infernal Dalliance[Demondand]
Insightful Strike

Skills:
Concentration(4): +5
Diplomacy(4): +7
Know: Religion(4): +6
Sense Motive(4): +7
Spellcraft(4): +6

-10 ACP, -8 ASP

Languages:
Common, Sylvan, Celestial

Spell list:
0: Create Water, Cure Minor Wounds, Detect Magic, Detect Poison, Disrupt Undead, Guidance, Light, Mending, Read Magic, Resistance, Virtue
1st: Atonement, Bless, Bless Water, Bless Weapon, Cure Light Wounds, Deathwatch (no [Evil] descriptor), Delay Poison, Detect Chaos, Detect Good, Detect Law, Detect Undead, Greater Dispel Magic, Divine Favor, Endure Elements, Enlarge Person, Entropic Shield, Magic Vestment, Greater Magic Weapon, Nondetection, Protection From Chaos/Evil/Law (opposed alignments only), Remove Fear, Searing Light, Shield of Faith, Lesser Vigor*, Find the Temple*
2nd: Aid, Align Weapon, Bull's Strength, Consecrate, Cure Moderate Wounds, Desecrate (desanctifying use only, no [Evil] descriptor), Eagle's Splendor, Heroism, Owl's Wisdom, Protection from Arrows, Remove Paralysis, Resist Energy, Lesser Restoration, See Invisibility, Shield Other, Status, Zone of Truth , Divine Insight*
*Added by Kaelik and I

Spells per day:
0 (DC 13): 5/5
1 (DC 14): 4/4

Gear:
Clothes
Components
Backpack
Divine Focus
Bedroll
Travel rations
Masterwork Adamantine Carapace -8 ACP -4 ASP
Masterwork Dragonscale Shield(Acid resist 3) 0 ACP -6 ASP
Masterwork Bastard Sword +5 1d10 19-20/2 Slashing and Bite -1 1d6 20/2
2 Scythes
Opal and Gold ring [Minor transmutation]
Shell Necklace [Minor Transmutation]

Andrew Jackson is a mother fucking war hero. He fought in the south, he fought in the west, and he fucking SURVIVED. Bitch just wants to do good by his people, y'know? Also, he comes from a noble line. Not enough to have any reasonable claim to a throne, but enough that he has some god damn table manners.

Wishlist:
Magic Adamantine Carapace (Changes to Mechanus Gear at level 10)
Natural Armor Item
+Cha Item
+Wis Item
Magic Dragonhide Shield (Changes to Magic Buckler at level 6)
+Resist Item
+Con Item
+Deflection Item

Magical Boneblade Kasuri Gama to be made at level 6

Current build idea:
Paladin 6/ Boneblade Reaper 10/ Paladin Whatever
1) Product of Infernal Dalliance[Demondand]
Human) Insightful Strike
Paladin 2) Iron Will
3) Blitz
6) Boneblade Master
Paladin 6) Ironhide
9) Duration Spell
12) Whirlwind
15) Horde Breaker
18) Attune Sphere: Bubbles

Planned spell picks:
3rd level: Wieldskill
7th level: Listening Lorecall
11th level: Spelltheft
15th level: Antimagic Ray
19th level: Choose Destiny

Fighting Style: Ignore hardness/DR, Fort save vs stun 1 round
Master fighting style: Ignore hardness/DR, Fort save vs Stun 1 round, reflex save vs helplessness 1 round

Changes I'd make:
Change race from human to Aasimar (dropping PoID)
Houserules that Kaelik made for this character that you need to confirm:
1) Insightful strike is fine to qualify for boneblade reaper instead of weapon finesse.
2) Lesser vigor, find the temple, and divine insight added where noted.

Spells I request to be added to the list at level 3 since I think they are cool(all out of spell compendium):
Knight's Move
Lesser Visage of the Deity

Special Mount: Winged Huge Monstrous Centipede

How is all of that as far as a character goes?

[Kaelik]

Varnax the Devil Conduit of Carceri

[Mask_De_H]

All of Kae's accepted material for the first game will be grandfathered in, and the agreed upon errata within the Tome errata thread will be allowed.

[ubernoob]

Andrew Jackson, no offense, no problem

[Koumei]

Hmm, time for me to make this team way sexier. By being there. Perhaps...

Kyrel
Chaotic Good Empusa (Succubus) Overlord 5 Beauty Queen 1
Female, Adult
Deity: herself
Background: Raised by Humans
-Improved Feint on Init-roll until 2nd turn

Str 16 (+3) [18 (+4)]
Dex 14 (+2)
Con 14 (+2)
Int 12 (+1)
Wis 08 (-1)
Cha 17 (+3) [19 (+4)]

HP: 48/48
Init: +2
Speed: 30' Fly: 60' (Poor) 2 rounds/day
AC: 20 (+2 Dex +4 Armour +4 Deflect) (usually 24: +4 Shield)
flat 18 (usually 22)
touch 16

BAB/Grapple: +6/+10 (+14 for hands + tail)

Fort +10
Ref +5
Will +7

Features:
Sexy
Charm Person (Su) once per day: DC 19
Speak for 1 minute: engage in conversation (Su)
Tiresome
Kiss etc. causes Fatigue 3 rounds and 1d8+4 Non-lethal, regain equal HP (Su)
Refreshing
Kiss removes Fatigue and 1d8+4 Non-lethal (Su)
Bloodline: Succubus
Telepathy 30' (Su)
Disguise Self (Su) at will
Tail Whip +10 (1d6+4 plus 3d6 Acid, 20/x2, 5-10' range)
Title [Overlord] [Pretty Daemonette]
Always considered properly, stylishly dressed
1 minute chanting to go to Demiplane: 10' x 15'
Sexy Sexy
AC Bonus
Move Action (Ex) causes -2 Morale to all d20 rolls on all viable targets 1 minute
Manoeuvres I
Cut Both Ways
Dervish
Graviton
Trick Shot
Impaler
Whip Into Frenzy!

Summoning:
Creatures per Phase: 2/2
Big Vicious Beasts
The usual one
Large Outsider [Chaotic, Good, Extraplanar]
70 HP, 6 HD
26 13 20 4 13 18
30' move
BAB +6/Grapple +22
Fort +10 Ref +6 Will +6
INA: Gore, Improved Natural Armour, Carrier
AC 20 (flat 18 touch 11)
Init +1
Gore +15 (4d6+14 plus Mindfire DC 18), Powerful Charge 8d6+28, Improved Grab
Constrict 2d6+8
Weapons
2 Cold Iron/Silver Daggers +12 (1d6+4, 19-20/x2)
Baatorian Greensteel Greatsword +12 (2d6+9, 19-20/x2)
Stone Great Axe +12 (1d12+8, 20/x3)
Longbow w/ Ironwood Arrows +10 (1d10, 20/x3)
Adamantine Spear +12 (1d10+8, 20/x2)
Living Whip +12 (1d6+8, 20/x2, each hit: -2 Morale to attacks 1 min)
Minions
Archers (25 HP, AC 18, F +5 R +7 W +4, Init +3)
-Arrow Storm (10' radius 40' tall cylinder, 1d10+2 damage, Ref half DC 16)
-Sniper Fire (+15 to hit, 3d10+6 damage)
-Porcupine Defence (1 attack +10 vs all in 20', 1d10+2 damage, threaten to 20')
Warriors (25 HP, AC 20, F +5 R +6 W +4, Init +2)
-Tide of Blades (Charge, attack all in the line, +12, 4d6+12 damage)
-Forest of Blades (Swarm Attack 2d6+6, enemy provokes by leaving)
Magicians (25 HP, AC 16, F +5 R +6 W +4, Init +2)
-Energy Blast (15' radius spread takes 1d6+9 Fire/Cold/Electric, Ref Half DC 16)
-Curse (1 target in 100' takes a -3 Morale penalty to saves + AC for 1 round)
-Energy Spike (1 in 30' takes 6d4 Fire/Cold/Electric, Ref Half DC 16)

Feats:
Gymnos Defence
AC Bonus
Damage Reduction 6/Adamantine
Casters must pass Concentration checks (DC 21 + level) to cast on me
Suggestion (Ex) 1/day (DC 17)
Nice Tail
Improved Grab (Tail)
Partial Action: Fascinate (Su) at will (DC 19)
Maintain grapple, deal 1d6 Acid
Two-Handed Defence
+4 Shield Bonus when wielding 2-handed weapon
Knockback 15' on Attacks of Opportunity/Readied Attacks
Immediate Action: Spell Resistance = Attack Roll, 1 spell

Skills:
+4 Divine bonus to Intimidate Outsiders
Bluff +15
Diplomancy +15
Knowledge: the Planes +9
Knowledge: Arcana +9
Escape Artist +10
Forgery +8

Languages:
Common, Infernal

Gear:
Golden Bracelets of Self-Admiration
-Strength (+2)
-Cure Light Wounds at will
Elysia-Forged Jade Earrings
-Charisma (+2)
-Sustenance
Seven-Seals Silver Anklets
-Save DCs (+2)
-Swimming
Aranea-Silk Hair Ribbons
-Resistance (+2)
-Vaguely intelligent, whispers dubious advice

[ubernoob]

Seeing that class statted up now, Koumei, I have to say it is complete bullshit. You have essentially three characters that all play rocket tag.

Seriously, this is the druid problem on steroids. The only way I could see it as being balanced? Character replacement. Seriously. You choose to be EITHER the overlord OR the grapplerapist OR the army horde. All fucking three out at the same time is seriously three normal characters.

To be clear, I'm requesting that Koumei make a character with a class that doesn't suffer from the Tome Fighter problem of having level appropriate shit for everything, so is an entire party in itself. For instance, that class gets a fiendish brute as a class feature, but better. In addition to two other characters.

[Kaelik]

To be clear, I'm requesting that Koumei make a character with a class that doesn't suffer from the Tome Fighter problem of having level appropriate shit for everything, so is an entire party in itself. For instance, that class gets a fiendish brute as a class feature, but better. In addition to two other characters.

Going to have to agree with this.

Apparently, in addition to having 140HP, 25 of which can be refreshed with a single standard action, combat output is basically:

Pick target, apply -5 moral penalty to everything, no save, then give your Fiendish Brute but better a Rage, and let it eat the thing.

Alternatively, if something is stupid enough to attack her, she gets to take away it's standard action as well as give her Brute Rage and apply -5 penalty.

Round 2 she just moves over and takes it's actions anyway.

And that's only because she's nice enough to waste a level on becoming a spherelock in the future and handing out -2 penalties to everything in the present.

If she were mean enough to take 6 levels of Overlord, she would instead just make two ranged attack rolls, and if either one hit, no save no standard action. In addition to the Fiendish Brute and minions.

[Koumei]

Ok, I figured it was just "have one decent closet troll at a time, or a battlefield controller, while having a few stunlockish abilities", but I'll eventually get around to making something else up.

[Mask_De_H]

Making control of the army/monsters a Concentration or Standard action could help, as the turn 1 stunlock (Curse + Whip into Frenzy + Grapple) would at least take longer to set up if the army and the beastie couldn't act independently as force multipliers.

[Mask_De_H]

Welp, my computer shat itself and died so no game on Monday.

[Koumei]

Well, after a bit of business and forgetfulness, I realised I should make a character before people think I died/threw a hissyfit.

So, thoughts:

1. A Witch, to debuff enemies and throw action-denial/SoDs around the place. Though I'll need to fix some of the later curses - day-long "Stunned" is retarded-good.

2. A Warmage to throw damage and battlefield control around.

What would the fellow players prefer I go with?

[Dominicius]

Is there a reason why neither of those classes have class skills written for them?

[Kaelik]

Is there a reason why neither of those classes have class skills written for them?

Because Class skills are 70% bullshit.

I mean fuck, just pick some skills, and give a BS reason why your class needs them. I could literally explain why Conduits would have any skill at all as a class skill, so choosing class skills is retarded.

[ubernoob]

I vote warmage on the following grounds:
A. No curse 1-9 effects to look up every time
B. No evil eye effects that last only one round, but can force a save round after round after round to keep track of for a -2 penalty that's easily forgotten.
C. Stinking Cloud(warmage)+Slow(my weapon)+spike stones(kaelik) = Fuck you. I like that idea. I really, really like that idea.

So yeah, totally in favor of warmage.

[Koumei]

Name: Sulu Payapa
Race: Empusa (Succubus)
Sex: Female
Age: 20
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Class/Level: Warmage 6
Background: Apprenticed
Size/Type: Medium Outsider [Extraplanar, Chaotic, Good]

STR	10	+0
DEX	14	+2
CON	14	+2	16	+3
INT	19	+4	21	+5
WIS	8	-1
CHA	14	+2

HP: 41/41
Init: +2
Speed: 30' Fly 60' (Poor) 3 rounds per day
Armour Class: 18 (+2 Dex +6 Armour)
Touch AC: 12
Flat AC: 16

Fort +5
Ref +7
Will +4

BAB/Grapple: +3/+3
-melee +3
-ranged +5
Tail Whip (5-10') +3, 1d4

Feats:
Duration Spell
Strong Spell
Shaped Spell

Skills:
Bluff +13
Concentration +11
Diplomancy +17
Intimidate +14
Know: Arcana +13
Know: Planes +13
Sense Motive +7
Spot +7

Features:
Sexy (DC 17) 1/day [ ]
Tiring (1d8+2)
Refreshing (1d8+2)
Telepathy 30'
Tail
Disguise Self at will

Elemental Exchange (Fire/Cold/Electricity/Acid)
Create Food
Create Water
Purify Food and Drink
Energy Effect (DC 20)
Swift Cast 1/day [X]
Limitless Spell Force

Spellcasting:
[*]Cantrips: 6/day, DC 17 [X][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]
Dancing Lights, Darkness, Detect Magic, Detect Poison, Disrupt Undead, Ghost Sound, Light, Magic Missile (4d4+4), Mending, Message, Purify, Rouse, Stand
[*]First Level: 8/day, DC 18 [ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]
Alarm, Detect Scrying, Detect Secret Doors, Disguise Self, Endure Elements, Entangle, Burning Hands, Grease, Mass Rouse, Mass Stand, Mount, Obscuring Mist, Shocking Grasp, Silent Image, Ventriloquism
[*]Second Level: 6/day, DC 19 [X][X][X][ ][ ][ ]
Arcane Lock, Continual Flame, Fireball (8d6), Jet of Steam, Gust of Wind, Incendiary Slime, Locate Object, Mass Enlarge Person, Mass Reduce Person, Misdirection, Protection From Arrows, Pyrotechnics, Resist Energy, Scorching Ray (2 rays), See Invisibility, Whispering Wind
[*]Third Level: 4/day, DC 20 [X][X][ ][ ]
Caustic Mire, Caustic Smoke, Deep Slumber, Dispel Magic, Fire Arrow, Fly, Horrid Sickness, Invisibility Sphere, Lightning Bolt (8d6), Major Image, Mass Resist Energy, Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound, Nondetection, Protection From Energy, Rage, Sleet Storm, Stinking Cloud, Wall of Fire, Water Breathing, Wind Wall

Equipment:
Clothes
Money
Backpack
A pair of feathered fans
Bedroll, blankets, chalk, waterclock, blah, blah, etc.
Red Dragonscale Shirt w/ cleavage (Armour +6, Fire Resist 6)
Tight "Hello Displacer Beast" knickers, woven from finest aranea-silk
[*]Magic Intensity (+2 to all save DCs)
[*]Madness Sexiness (DC 17 Hypnosis)
Celestial Goldweave hair ribbons
[*]Acumen (+2 Enhancement to Int)
[*]All-around Vision
Jingling Halo bracelets
[*]Arcane Might (+2 to all Caster Levels)
[*]Tremorsense 30'
Electrum laced brassiere
[*]Health (+2 Con)
[*]Functions as a Handy Haversack
Paper Hat of Derpicus IV
[*]Paper Fold: 3/day add +$TEXAS to Escape Artist
Emo music player thing that makes me angry
Sad Intelligent Sword
Cheap Plastic Imperial Seal

Backstory:
Sulu was born in a small Netherworld called Fiel'hee, where she was raised, learning the ways of the Blood War. Well, in theory. In practice, she spent more time out in the yard and playground. She tended to just hang around, killing time and shooting hoops around the back of the academy she was supposed to be studying in.

Eventually, however, a bunch of Babau got up in her grill - they were clearly trouble, wanting nothing but violence. She only got into one little battle, but her mum got scared and said "You're movin' with yo auntie and uncle in Bel-Air the Prime Material Plane."

And so she ended up in the human world, which is far more interesting, and actually attended an academy there, learning from Dunkelheim, one of the greatest war-magi in the world. He knew from the start that she had great potential, because apparently magic gathers in the chest, and she had a huge... capacity.

And that, as they say, is that.

[ubernoob]

Instead of Large Size and Battle Mage, maybe take one of these:
Wings of Evil (considering the ground will be littered with stuff you don't want to walk over every single battle)
Strong Spell (probably more useful than duration spell even)
Repeat Spell (similar to strong spell, but not as good at this level)
Shaped Spell (no explanation needed)


I think Shaped Spell, Duration Spell, and Strong Spell would probably fit the party best. You can ride bitch on my mount if flying is too much trouble at this level.

[Koumei]

Fair enough. And then I could replace the tail weapon (seeing as close combat isn't going to be a thing I'll do) with... either a Resistance to saves item or Deflection to AC one.

And we shall be known as Team "Fuck you, you don't get any actions!" or The Heroic Nine* for short!

*despite all evidence to the contrary

[ubernoob]

Fair enough. And then I could replace the tail weapon (seeing as close combat isn't going to be a thing I'll do) with... either a Resistance to saves item or Deflection to AC one.

Well, if you're riding bitch on my mount you'll be in my sword's magic circle effect so get both deflection and resistance (although next level you'll miss out on 1 point). Maybe get a +Con item instead?

And we shall be known as Team "Fuck you, you don't get any actions!" or The Heroic Nine* for short!

*despite all evidence to the contrary

I highly doubt there is anything heroic about watching the terrain kill someone.

[ubernoob]

Welp, my computer shat itself and died so no game on Monday.

Any chance you've fixed it yet?

[Mask_De_H]

Not really no.

I'm on a loaner, but I'm not sure how long I can use this (it's my sister's). And iPods can't run IRC so...if I'm lucky I'll get my computer back from the repair shop early next week.

[Koumei]

Character picture (maybe NSFW, knickers)

[Mask_De_H]

I LIIIIIIIIIVE~!

Computer's fixed, so I can access IRC now. You mooks still interested?

[Koumei]

I'm still game. Just need to be reminded of the day and time.

Preferably in Adelaide time (GMT +9:30). I can remember to recalculate it once I move, seeing as that's simply another +0:30

[ubernoob]

Still interested. I believe Kaelik is well, but I can't speak for him.