Cashing In

[Koumei]

Right. So far approximately everyone on the planet has said they owe me, and I have almost as many followers and fans as Jesus. So I'm cashing in my money in the bank.

I got my hopes up for an Ascension (Dark Heresy with characters who aren't fucking worthless - regular DH is totally Black Adder in space, this actually lets you be Inquisitors and stuff) game, but that was a mistake.

So here is what I want: to play in a game where I can be a Battle Sister - competent and well-trained, and with a variety of skills, actual Faith powers, and the kind of equipment they have in the wargame (minimum: Bolter, Chainsword, Power Armour).

So that's either Ascension with generous equipment-giving, or a better-quality game called Dungeon Crusade or Pretty Soldier Adepta Sororitas. If 1-on-1 then IRC or Forums, doesn't bother me. If it ends up as a group thing, forums only, because fuck trying to organise a pile of people to show up at the same time. GM must be willing to put up with my views of Battle Sisters being completely lesbicious, and must be happy to let the PC/s be awesome and not "some cannon fodder - the real main characters are out doing more important things".

And yes, if multiple people say they'll run, I'm happy to play multiple games.

Edit: I am totally petty enough to basically hold all future content hostage until my wishes are fulfilled.

[angelfromanotherpin]

I'm told that I give great 40K, but I usually give it in some form of GURPS. If that's not a deal-breaker, I can do it on the forum.

[Koumei]

Yeah, I'm not willing to learn and play GURPS.

[angelfromanotherpin]

Yeah, I'm not willing to learn and play GURPS.

Well, the offer stands if you change your mind.

[Koumei]

I figure someone else will concede to my demands if they want to see any more of my creations :3

[the_taken]

Didn't you make this?

Are you talking PbP?

[Koumei]

Yes I did create it - and that's why I said "...a better quality game called Dungeon Crusade or Pretty Soldier Adepta Sororitas." Because either of those would be better than the shit-in-a-book known as Dark Heresy.

Play by Post is preferable, yes.

[Rejakor]

If it's PbP, i'd be willing to run something (I can't commit to another realtime game at this time) if you'd be willing to forgive my general lack of minutiae knowledge about Warhammer 40k. I haven't read any of the novels, just a few codexes and wikis, so likely none of my plot would involve any characters or happenings from the warhammer universe, just mad chaplains and slaanesh worshiping callgirls.

And serious things too, of course. Disclaimer: Partaking in my games has been known to induce awesome.

-Rejakor

[Koumei]

Rejakor: excellent. It shall be done. And I actually prefer PbP.

[Rejakor]

What is thy bidding, my master.
It is a disaster, Skywalker we're after.

So.

Systems.

While i'm basically willing to wrap my mind around Ascension, Dungeon Crusade or PSASRPG, and I agree that Dark Heresy is only good for watching your characters fall down stairs and suddenly explode into daemonhost, I think what you're aiming to do could be done with: Wushu, Minimus, Feng Shui or ATP(Alien vs Terran vs Predator).

When it comes to systems, i'm pretty easy as I tend to bind them to my will regardless of type and the simple rule of 'every character should have equal ability to affect the narrative' has served me well with everything from diceless to GURPS. You seem to have a pretty clear idea of what kind of game you want, so i'll leave you to decide what type of dice we'll be rolling and why. Another question would be, are you averse to other players, and, does anyone else want in?

-Rejakor

[the_taken]

Slaanesh worshiping callgirls? Fuck yeah! Count me in.

[koz]

Totally cool with the idea, but it depends on how many/who else participate.

Edit: Also, I would prefer it be done with Dungeon Crusade, since I've wanted to play it for a while now.

[Josh_Kablack]

1. I fucking suck at online games of any sort, in light of prior experience, I only run face to face.
2. My warhammer knowledge is totally limited to the Hello Kitty crossovers which sneak around the web.
3. I'm working two and a half jobs with a crapton of social/family stress on top, so I'm not taking on any new games until the us Censless Bureau gets around to laying me off in a month or three.

So I think I'm out here, but good luck.

[Koumei]

Rejakor: As it's PbP, I'm happy to have other players, providing they're willing to get along with me. It looks like there's slightly the most support for Dungeon Crusade, so sure.

Siege Tier is obvious, other than that? I dunno, regular Siege stat array (9 11 14 16 17 18) I suppose. Level 7+, I'm not really fussed. I figure I'll play a Sister Superior, thus gaining the ability to hand bonuses out to people I like, and hand bolter rounds out to people I don't like :3

[Koumei]

Also, I wish it to be known how pleased I am. It means I don't have to stop creating stuff - I was tempted to threaten to post up the fetish-specific supplement I had long ago made (I was bored), with descriptions, pictures and examples of play.

But it seems that won't be necessary. Which is handy, because digging it up would be a hassle.

[the_taken]

New guy question: What's Dungeon Crusade? How do I get in?

And yes, I tried to google it. All I got was WotC stuff and pron.

Edit, found it.

So Komei wants to be a Pretty Soldier, but I'm looking at the Primarch->Broodlord->Malanthrope with grin on my face...

Edit-> Solution!

[Rejakor]

-Acid Spit: Most Space Marines can spit acid out to 10' as a ranged touch attack, dealing 3d4+Con Acid damage.

Wat.


So when you say Dungeon Crusade (I just got the Dark Crusade reference/pun, talk about laff) you mean Dungeon Crusade set in the regular WH40k setting instead of on a primitive deathworld filled with magic and dragons? I can do that.

When you say level 7+, are you saying 6 levels of Adeptas Sororitas and at least 1 of Sister Superior, or are you saying all of sister superior and at least three levels of Dominion or something? Also, as a sidenote, the usual problems of technology acting as a massive power multiplier/force multiplier/instant kill causer is hilariously shortcircuited in siege tier because the characters themselves are just so hardcore. They could probably walk out of an orbit to groundside hard landing. Not that I plan to stop you if you want to rig the sewer tunnels around the governor's mansion with enough explosives to put him into low orbit. In fact, that sort of thing is encouraged. If you want to go with that stat array, that's fine. Otherwise, i'll cobble together some kind of crazy pointbuy system that doesn't suck quite as much as WotC's does. Give me a bit of time to digest DC and i'll put together some equipment guidelines.

Do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions/requests for how you start the game? I've got a couple of ideas, but it'd be great to hear what you guy(s) are after.


Mister_Sinister:- So you're in for playing?


Taken:- Enter at your own peril. Past the vaulted door, where impossible things may happen, that the world has never seen before... in dexter's laaaaabbbbbbbbbbb- I mean welcome. Welcome to my game.

[Rejakor]

I'm pretty sure Koumei's Sister Superior wouldn't be cool with tyranids, no matter how convincing your paper face-cutout was.

But hey, if you can make it work, who am I to stop you!


Other than the GM. Mumble mumble rassin fassin kids.

Also, I can't find Pretty Soldier Adepta Sororit- found it. Hm. Hmmm.

I like this. I'm tempted to just say 'you're all bolter bitches, and furthermore, you are all a schoolgirl archetype' so we could end up with the leader one, the prissy one, the sporty one, the cute and ditzy one, the tsundere one, the bookish one and of course everyone's favourite, the shy pretty one. Except you're all battle sisters. Dungeon Crusade high octane doorbreaking action, or high school sororitas. I like them both. Zip lining through the governor's windows, or zip lining through the governor's windows and then posing as you land. Yeah, but either way, good luck swinging a malanthrope.

-Rejakor

[the_taken]

I know the tentacle alien won't work. We can save it for a different game.

I've wanted to try Pretty Soldier, but I'm more familiar with the D&D 3.5 mechanics. Either one works for me, but if we go school girls with bolters, I call shy pretty archetype.

[Mask_De_H]

I'm in, maybe the third time's the charm. Let's go with Dungeon Crusade, although Wushu/Feng Shui makes me happy in my pants.

[Koumei]

taken: I assume it would be all Imperials - whether other Sisters, Assassins or disgusting psyker-worshipping mutant freaks Space Marines.

Rejakor: seriously, in the fluff they can spit acid. I said they were inhuman mutants. And just to avoid confusion, that's Acid damage equal to 3d4 + Con modifier, it isn't Con damage that is also Acid.

I don't actually mind whether it's set in D&D land (where they'd need some sort of base or comms line for ammo refills and all that) or in actual 40k world, whichever way you'd rather take it.

Yeah, by level 7+ I meant "the six standard levels of Adepta Sororitas, and at least one level of Sister Superior".

I'm happy with the stat array - which is indeed fairly hardcore. I kind of like the idea of the team being extreme and almost approaching things with D&D-level awesome.

And if you prefer the looks of Pretty Soldier Adepta Sororitas, just declare we're doing that - I'm of course happy with either idea (seeing as I made them both, after all).

[the_taken]

OK, so have we decided which game we are playing. It's sound like we are playing dungeon crusade, but I'm not sure.

[koz]

I'm in. Vindicare assassin of some sort, likely. Alternatively, I might play a Commissar Lord.

[Rejakor]

Stand and die, you dogs! IN HIS NAME!

*cough*

Right.

After long thought and musing i've come to the conclusion that i'll be running a game using Dungeon Crusade, set in the Warhammer 40,000 universe we all know and love. However at some point I will make a point of playing in a schoolgirl Pretty Solder Adepta Sororitas game, and at some point (possibly after this game finishes) I will make a point of playing in/running a vanilla Dungeon Crusade game (it practically writes itself!).

I have a plot roughed out for the Warhammer 40k Dungeon Crusade game, and, well, it could go a number of ways. But, to begin with;

Level 7, siege tier. You can take assault tier classes instead of being a spess mehrin or a assassin or whathaveyou, but if you end up sucking, don't come whining to me.

Siege tier stat array. Yes, even if you are taking assault tier classes, you still get the siege tier array. Sigh.

Equipment: You get what your class gives you, and then you have an amount of requisition points equal to half your class levels + int mod. 1 requisition point gets you something lame like a lasgun or mesh armour. 2 req points get you something pro like power armour or a DOUBLE FLAMETHROWER. half a requisition point is enough to buy anything that isn't a gun or armour.

Lame vehicles like groundcars cost 1 req point. Tricked out groundcars or military vehicles cost 2 req points. Space-capable ships cost 4 req points. Warp-capable ships cost 8 req points. You don't get anything bigger than a freighter. You just don't.

Also, if you are affiliated with any sort of group, you can cash in your req-bought vehicles and get a new vehicle if your group is present on the planet you go to after you cash in your old vehicle. So, if a guardsman cashes in his chimera on Carborundum IV, and he heads off to Freya 617, the local guard depot has to hand him a chimera. If he heads off to Deathworld Katyos II, where there are no guard depots, he's SOL unless he managed to swing bringing along his chimera with the people transporting him.

Skills: No cross class skills! Fuck cross class skills! Furthermore, the following skills are conflated:

Jump, Climb, Swim -> Athletics

Balance, Tumble - > Acrobatics

Spot, Listen -> Perception

Hide, Move Silently -> Sneakin'

Decipher Script - > Now a use of knowledge:history, local, arcana (renamed psionics), the planes (renamed: the warp),

Forgery, Disguise - > Disguise (because I say so)

Craft now lets you craft everything, OR you can pick something like 'weapons' or 'armour' and all ranks in that skill now cost only HALF normal cost for those ranks. Craft is also the check you use to repair stuff, or build cool new stuff, or understand stuff that has been built. Disable Device is what you use to jury-rig doors to open and hack passcodes and bypass control routines.

Use Magic Device doesn't exist, it is instead handled by a modified level check.

Demolitions is handled by the craft (demolitions) skill and proficiency (explosives). If you don't have either of those, trying to prime or place explosives may result in you dying.

New Skills:

Drive (handles ground and water vehicles, keys from dex)
Pilot (handles air and space vehicles, keys from dex)

Ride is now a use of the Drive skill.

HP: First level you get max as usual, after that you get to pick between average or rolling! Once you pick that's what you do for all six levels you get at startup, though once you get levels in game you can totally choose to roll or average those.

Feats: NORMAL FEATS.

Starting location: Keep your backgrounds faintly vague as the actual starting location will vary depending on what we have in the party.

Limitations on characters: Your character must appear to be on friendly terms with the imperium of man. That sounds pretty easy but the Imperium is rather xenophobic so pretty much unless you can conceal that you are a xenos, all xenos are out. Now note that i'm not saying that you can't be a chaos worshiper or secretly a daemon or a shapechanging t'au infiltrator or something. That's totally fine. But it has to be secret. If the opening scene is you getting executed, it's kind of me wondering why you wanted to play that character in the first place.

Okay... that's kind of badly formatted but i'm too tired to fix it right now. So enjoy!

Also, am I the only one running? Aw. I wanted to play.

List of players so far:
Koumei - Sister Superior, Adepta Sororitas
Mister Sinister - Vindicare Assassin or Commissar
the_taken - not a tyranid
Mask De H - ??

GM:
Me!

-Rejakor

[Utterfail]

I'd be willing to play a game of Dungeon Crusade, if theres room.