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Koumei
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Draco_Argentum wrote:

Objectionable porn is about half of it


Objectionable porn? I have to say, I've found things I find pretty objectionable - and I don't mean "I object to furries/men". But I'm guessing that's "illegal content sites that we managed to find and pin down".

Still, I'm curious.

Also, I love how Frank can make anything sound like a crisis of the planet.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I confess, I'm mostly ambivalent toward the presence or absence of such a filter, so long as the filtered dictionary isn't too large (defined in an entirely arbitrary way, by me). Some people may sometimes find it easier to rely on a slew of unimaginative curses rather than address whatever topic is at hand, and if you all consider this to be the case, you'd certainly be within your rights to institute a filter for facilitating discussion - it's far from a sacrilege against the First Amendment to do so. But, I hold no preference.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I also request no filter.

But, if we must have one, I humbly submit "frell," "feth," and all variants thereof for inclusion.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I am rather against a filter. If people want to swear, I say let them. If this impedes communication or offends people, that's their problem, and I don't see why the more mature people on this board should be punished for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'd like to point out that I rarely swear as much as I did in my rant. I was emulating a certain style, and part of that style is to swear even more casually than I actually do.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Koumei wrote:
Draco_Argentum wrote:

Objectionable porn is about half of it


Objectionable porn? I have to say, I've found things I find pretty objectionable - and I don't mean "I object to furries/men". But I'm guessing that's "illegal content sites that we managed to find and pin down".

Still, I'm curious.

Also, I love how Frank can make anything sound like a crisis of the planet.


See the news thread, wikileaks has a copy now. Conroy's denial rings false.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

As much as I miss "fvck," I don't think we should actually reinstate word filters. Now, if we could all agree that we should filter "fuck" to "fvck" for like, nostalgia's sake, I'd be all for that. Simply because I loved that word.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It doesn't just have nostalgia value, Cielingcat - I was never around when it was coined, and I like to use it now. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That's a fvcking stupid idea and you know it :D

Maybe what we need is random stupid wordfilters...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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As much as I miss "fvck," I don't think we should actually reinstate word filters. Now, if we could all agree that we should filter "fuck" to "fvck" for like, nostalgia's sake, I'd be all for that. Simply because I loved that word.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Falgund wrote:
Words are meaningless, only the intent counts.
I don't care about curse words used as punctuation. I do care that wordfilters break the meaning of perfectly non profanity phrases. I do care that wordfilters do nothing to mask the intent of profanity phrases.


I think what you're talking about is when a filtered word appears in the middle of another word, and the filters fuck up the longer word. If so... phpBB doesn't have that problem. I just tested this over on Nifty, where we filter "shit" to "spoon." This is what posted:

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spoon

thisisabigpieceofshitandyouknowit

this_is_a_big_piece_of_shit_and_you_know_it


When I posted, that's what showed up in each instance. In both the second and third cases, "shit" still appears just fine.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other on the filter; but I figured I'd chime in with that piece of information about how the filters work in the forum software.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That's convenient. Being able to type s before hit without it converting it to **** (something that I experienced on a site with worse codeing) keeps the filter from filtering stuff we don't want (mostly, at least) - assuming we want one at all, but that's another discussion from how well it works.

Thanks for passing this on.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have changed my mind with regard to the profanity filter: I don't think there should be one here. Not because I think it'd be evil censorship or any such nonsense, but simply because there's already a bunch of other message boards one can go to if one wants discussion with these filters. There is, I think, value in having The Gaming Den be different for seriously nothing but difference's sake. Maybe the quality of discourse will be worse, maybe better, but that it is different gives us a reason to be here rather than someplace else.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

...which is that we can say fuck?

That's not a good trade for lower levels of discourse. If the discourse level was the same, for purposes of actually producing something, fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I remember one time right after the digital protection act was passed (before t was negated by the courts) that word filters were common and given much control.

Being kicked and banned for talking about breast cancer awareness; the Dick van Dyke show; umm... Well, there were many of them which would be insta-bans in various places.

Very annoying.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ick. Having "Fuck" turn into "fvck" or "hug", fine. Having it turn into "You have been banished from the Den." (even only for say, five minutes) is ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Second Life is being sued now because adults can sometimes see nipples on statues in PG (default) areas in a virtual world where you have to sign an agreement that you're an adult to enter.

It's a weird country we live in.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Oh no, nipples! Say it isn't so!

I don't understand the fear of nipples. I mean, genitals, fine, I suppose they vaguely have something there - given the choice I'd rather not see male danglies. But nipples? Everyone has those!

And if people can sue over seeing things that offend them, then can I mention that fat tummies hanging out offends me? Or horrible unkempt neckbeards?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Koumei wrote:
I don't understand the fear of nipples. I mean, genitals, fine, I suppose they vaguely have something there - given the choice I'd rather not see male danglies. But nipples? Everyone has those!
I refuse to lower actual breasts to a comparison with my nipples. Big Grin

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And if people can sue over seeing things that offend them, then can I mention that fat tummies hanging out offends me? Or horrible unkempt neckbeards?
Oh, the problem's that, you see, the authorities have plenty of those, so it's not shameful. Also, the Sky Fairy even used to urge keeping them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I can't help but feel that I am in some way responsible for this thread.

You all know that if 'fuck' and 'shit' get banned, I'm just going to go for more and more disgusting imagery. Think about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Lago PARANOIA wrote:
I can't help but feel that I am in some way responsible for this thread.

You all know that if 'fuck' and 'shit' get banned, I'm just going to go for more and more disgusting imagery. Think about it.


Your 'colorful' reviews are what brought me here in the first place.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I like fvck. The something awful one is moderately amusing to, mostly as it is a trap for new users.

It's not a die in a ditch issue though
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