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I hate group-breakers!

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:10 am
by Crissa
Yeah, this is a rant.

So, I've been playing this game for a month... Spent alot of time making character classes for the DM, who doesn't have much time to play, but has similar tastes to mine.

There's this other character. The Mage. Day one I knew this character would be trouble - they started the game by hiding from the group in the corner under their cloak. Too scared to talk. Not the player, the character. This character then clung to another character, refused to spend silver for a good inn after taking up a session complaining about how unsafe the bad inn was... Oy. Anyhow, set up session, travel session, backgrounds done...

The next game session, we get to our first combat. The Mage plays out 'ickyickyicky' and while taking out half the monsters, plays this out the whole time. A couple in-game encounters later they get the first magic loot.

Said loot was a cursed amulet the GM designed for their character to tie them into the story. They 'heard voices' telling them to 'do bad things'.

Fast forward to catching some bandits a day from one of our travel goals. The other players (mostly me) decide to tie the bandits up, check our goal out, then march back to town.

...The Mage takes the first watch, and uses some spells plus intimidate - she almost fails there, having to resort to another spell - to make the bandits flee in terror.

So on second watch, noticing the bandits are gone, my character tells the mage to hand over the cursed amulet, or the rest of the party will be woken and told this happened now. A scuffle ensues, the amulet is taken, puts a nice hefty curse on my character for being less than careful, and the party is woken anyhow.

Without the bandits, we make our way the less-than-a-day hike to our goal on this trip. The mage refuses to interact with my character, despite my character having been baleful polymorphed and basically, useless to the party except as a scout. Which is good, because that's what we need.

Two sessions later, the Paladin decides to break into the Temple we've come across, because it's to some demon or other that's way out of our league, but hey, there's no followers here, it's not spooky or anything? My character had been 'fixed' by praying to this demon - the amulet had something to do with finding the temple. So the Paladin gets cursed this time. ...And the Mage runs away from the party, deciding that's good roleplay, and the most logical thing their character can do at that point, as the party flees from the trapped temple.

We spend the rest of the session looking for the mage. My character finds them first, because they've made a fire and weren't covering their tracks anyhow. The mage decides they still don't like my bully of a character, and so begins to fire crossbow bolts at her. My character asks her not to, has suffered fatigue damage (at the Mage player's insistence, it was a good call...), and refuses to fight. After being shot twice and magic missiled, my character fights back.

...And then the mage player starts arguing that I can't use grapple to stop them from casting spells, because that isn't fair. That I can only choose one thing from a grapple, and if I opt to do damage or disarm the crossbow, I can't then continue the grapple and stop them from casting unless I pin... And yelling about 'it's your PvP fascination!' and such.

The game kinda just ended up in yelling after that; the DM and I asking why the mage's player wouldn't conceive or tell us about other things OOCly we could do to move the story along, me arguing that I'm not rule-lawyering, I'm just using the maneuver as written, because to not to would mean the mage could just continue blasting my character with impunity. Oh, and being yelled at for 'stealing' two sessions ago, and 'this was the result!' and I should 'thought about it first!'

Ugh. You'd think if someone had some bullying trigger, they'd have said so OOCly when the /first/ argument happened weeks ago.

-Crissa

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:14 am
by SunTzuWarmaster
Darn, its sad because this actually sounds like a fun campaign to play in.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:24 am
by Bigode
Why "they"? Does the character not have a (known) gender, or it's you fearing some bias (which'd be hilarious)?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:34 am
by Crissa
The character is a girl and I don't really know about the player.

What really gets me is that apparently my momentary 'theft' of the cursed item with a 'rule lawyer PvP Grapple' was what broke the group up. Not the shrinking violet act, not the looting and backstabbing with prisoners or shooting my character.

-Crissa

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:54 am
by cthulhu
The mage player is a nut job.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:54 am
by Crissa
The DM basically said it was my fault, though, for always phrasing things in the form of a rules answer, making the other players 'feel bad'.

On the other hand, the DM started a new campaign - same world, same story (demon god, usurper god, and fallen clerics along with some arcane/kidnapping thing, different (simpler) characters, different location (sorta, being one of the kids kidnapped instead of the heroes sent to deal with the usurper god).

So that's a start.

-Crissa

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:27 am
by Crissa
Ugh, now he hates my Rogue.

He thinks having four ranks in lock picking and disable device is unrealistic for a first-level character.

Man...

-Crissa

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:06 am
by Maxus
What is wrong with this person? That's just idiocy...

Hah. Actually, buy a couple of locks. In the party's downtime, practice on them. Say that's how you keep max ranks in it. And it's roleplaying!

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:32 am
by Lago PARANOIA
Crissa, stop ROLLplaying and start ROLEplaying. Sheesh.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:38 am
by cthulhu
its weird that the GM blamed you after initally taking your side - but seriously not much you can do about alignment problems tht deep. I'd just roll on and ignore them.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:26 am
by virgil
I'm scared of what their character is like, if being trained in your class's skills is unrealistic to them. Though if something like a provoked PvP grapple is setting people off, I suspect there's something else that's not being spoken about with you.

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:11 pm
by SunTzuWarmaster
Oh noes! A rogue! They can totally pick locks! If they take 20, they can even get through ANY locked door!

Locked doors are no longer a challenge to this party!

How can you expect me to deal with this?!

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:05 pm
by Crissa
That's pretty much what he said...

...And I don't see why it matters, he's so fond of charm effects and traps I stepped in one the second game session. Oy. Not going to pick locks until this wears off.

-Crissa

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:03 pm
by Roy
This looks like a job for...

Dun dun dun dun dun!

DruidZilla!