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Catalogue WLD, and insult other players
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:02 am
by Kaelik
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:50 pm
by ubernoob
Trapfinding 3 times in a group of eight...
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:05 pm
by Judging__Eagle
Which works really well for WLD.
That book actively punishes PCs that take 10 or 20 for searching for traps.
Having 3 PCs that can roll on those will help ensure survivability via redundancy of rolls.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:16 pm
by ubernoob
Judging__Eagle wrote:Which works really well for WLD.
That book actively punishes PCs that take 10 or 20 for searching for traps.
Having 3 PCs that can roll on those will help ensure survivability via redundancy of rolls.
It punishes you for taking ten? How?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:25 pm
by TarkisFlux
If memory serves, all of the DCs are high enough that taking 10 is insufficient to find anything and you just walk into the traps. Taking 20 works, but subjects you to random encounters, allows monsters time to set ambushes, and other time sensitive bullshit.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:32 pm
by virgil
I've seen it used in KoDT. If you ever want to go into a dungeon with any kind of preparation; purchase a herd of goats or something to walk forward to set off traps.
The other option is to get a wand of summon monster I for the same reason.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:41 pm
by ubernoob
TarkisFlux wrote:If memory serves, all of the DCs are high enough that taking 10 is insufficient to find anything and you just walk into the traps. Taking 20 works, but subjects you to random encounters, allows monsters time to set ambushes, and other time sensitive bullshit.
You mean like the DC 27 trap when two of the trapfinders only have +6 bonuses, so have 0% chance to find it and the other gets a maximum of +14 bonus with the other two using aid another, so fails to find it by taking ten?
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:46 pm
by TarkisFlux
Yeah Ubernoob, exactly like that piece of fun right there.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:30 pm
by Judging__Eagle
Basically, either you auto-fail; since the DM is told to arbitrarily raise trap search DCs, or you encounter extra monsters. Maybe empty rooms, or dripping water, if you got lucky on the random encounters table.
If not, sometimes,
rocks fall, everyone gets hurt. Which makes no real sense, since you'd have a cave-in if rocks were falling from the ceiling.