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Maxus wrote:http://www.popeater.com/2010/08/16/just ... -number%2F

For some reason, I now vaguely approve of Justin Bieber. Who I previously didn't care about one way or another.
That is awesome.
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I thought this was amusing:

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A friend showed me a website with some delicious ranting at Rob Liefeld's art in comics.

It is somewhat perplexing that an artist with far less mastery of his craft than say, a rank amateur like myself possesses, could be so successful. Anywho, the ranting made me laugh.
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People ranting about Rob Liefield get the same answer from me as the people ranting about sports star's paychecks: it's popular because people buy it. If you want to find out why it's popular, ask the dipshits paying for it.
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I confess that I was one of those disphits long ago. I was young and did not realize that 500lb men made of tree trunks (and everyone else for that matter) were not supposed to have infant sized feet, among his other drawing peculiarities.

I somehow owned or had already read nearly half the comic panels that are depicted in those rants and they never registered as being horribad to my poor teenage mind at the time.
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The ranting and commentary made me laugh until no sound came out.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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http://www.funraniumlabs.com/the-black- ... the-earth/

I'm not a coffee drinker, but I'd give that a try just to show this guy support.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Talisman wrote:At the time of the arrow-fireball trick, Eragon had no clue that "brisingr" was anything other than a curse word. I can understand screaming the equivalent of "Damn!" at the enmy as they're about to kill you, but in context this makes no sense. In times of stress, you may cuss with words you know; you don't use curses in another language that you've only ever heard once.
I don't know, if I recall, he practically idolized Brom, so maybe he naturally picked up words he heard Brom use.

There's also some chosen one bullshit in the story, which could explain why that specific word came out of his mouth.
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MOADIB is a killing word.
Dune did it first, and much cooler.
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sabs wrote:MOADIB is a killing word.
Dune did it first, and much cooler.
That's not what you think it means. It meant it was their battlecry.

The whole movie thing with the weirding way was added to the movie because they didn't like the idea of kung-fu on the desert. They basically used weaponless hand to hand to kill their opponents in the novels.
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violence in the media wrote:Forbes calculates Smaug's treasure hoard.
Nerd fail.
There are certainly other valuable items in Smaug’s hoard – rare suits of armor and so on – but the point of the exercise is to establish a minimum, conservative, net worth and the total value of a pile of ancient weaponry is probably no more than a rounding error in a fortune measured in the billions of dollars.
One of those rare suits of armor was worth more than the Shire and everything in it. Rounding error my ass.
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Another nit pick, since his underbelly was lined with diamonds from lying on his horde, at the very least his horde was initially topped by a layer of diamonds. It's not like he placed them here one by one, so strictly speaking there should be a top layer of diamonds under his body more or less that couldn't get placed in his body because another diamond was already placed in that same location.

Although the pricing of magic items is a tricky problem. In tolkien's world magic items sucked. More over this was a dwarven horde, so we are mostly talking about dwarven armor, a limited comodity at best.
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angelfromanotherpin wrote:
violence in the media wrote:Forbes calculates Smaug's treasure hoard.
Nerd fail.
There are certainly other valuable items in Smaug’s hoard – rare suits of armor and so on – but the point of the exercise is to establish a minimum, conservative, net worth and the total value of a pile of ancient weaponry is probably no more than a rounding error in a fortune measured in the billions of dollars.
One of those rare suits of armor was worth more than the Shire and everything in it. Rounding error my ass.
You know, I haven't been able to find any information on how much the Shire is actually worth. I'm not really disputing your statement, but I'd have a hard time imagining the totality of the Shire to be worth more than a few million dollars. So the question is, can you accept that all of the other miscellaneous crap in the hoard is worth less than $100 million or so (because otherwise the hoard would be pegged at $8.7 billion)?
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The shire is large amounts of good farmland. That produces rare weed, amongst many other things. In an agrarian society I would value the Shire at several billion.
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The Shire is 18,000 square miles of highly fertile and agriculturalized land. That's worth approximately 23 billion dollars before you even get to the houses, the furnishings, and the personal fortunes.
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angelfromanotherpin wrote:The Shire is 18,000 square miles of highly fertile and agriculturalized land. That's worth approximately 23 billion dollars before you even get to the houses, the furnishings, and the personal fortunes.
Accepting this at face value, you're telling me that the logical conclusion then is that this single suit of armor has a value in excess of that? No chance that the statement regarding the value of the armor was incorrect, hyperbolic in the least, or speaking more to the low monetary value of the Shire? Especially considering that the Arkenstone is attributed as being the single most valuable item in the hoard, and the two treasure chests Bilbo brings back with him is enough to make him one of the wealthiest hobbits in the Shire?

Also, holy shit! 18,000 square miles? The Shire is the size of the Dominican Republic, or almost 1/3 the size of Florida? That's way bigger than I would have ever imagined it.
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violence in the media wrote:Accepting this at face value, you're telling me that the logical conclusion then is that this single suit of armor has a value in excess of that? No chance that the statement regarding the value of the armor was incorrect, hyperbolic in the least, or speaking more to the low monetary value of the Shire?
This is a fair point, since the mithril shirt's value is not established by the omniscient narrator, but rather by two characters: Gandalf (who says it's worth more than the Shire and everything in it) and Gimli (who says that Gandalf undervalued it). Neither of them is established as a true expert, but they are both at least reasonably credible on the subject.

But look, even if the value I mention for the Shire overvalues the mithril shirt by more than twenty times, that one item is not a rounding error but rather a significant chunk of the calculated value of the hoard. To simply declare that it and all the rest of the equipment in the hoard are 'a rounding error' is just lazy.
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angelfromanotherpin wrote:
violence in the media wrote:Accepting this at face value, you're telling me that the logical conclusion then is that this single suit of armor has a value in excess of that? No chance that the statement regarding the value of the armor was incorrect, hyperbolic in the least, or speaking more to the low monetary value of the Shire?
This is a fair point, since the mithril shirt's value is not established by the omniscient narrator, but rather by two characters: Gandalf (who says it's worth more than the Shire and everything in it) and Gimli (who says that Gandalf undervalued it). Neither of them is established as a true expert, but they are both at least reasonably credible on the subject.

But look, even if the value I mention for the Shire overvalues the mithril shirt by more than twenty times, that one item is not a rounding error but rather a significant chunk of the calculated value of the hoard. To simply declare that it and all the rest of the equipment in the hoard are 'a rounding error' is just lazy.
That's fair. Though with Gandalf and Gimli, it might be more of a failure in their expertise regarding the value of the Shire than in their assessment of the armor. If, like me, they figured that Shire was smaller or less valuable than it actually is (according to size and our land values), then they could easily claim the armor to be worth more than the whole of it.

Reading the comments of the article, the author responds to that question a couple of times and gives you an idea of why he valued things the way he did. Basically, he didn't give any special value for "mithral", "magic", or assign any of the pieces "art" value. They were just assumed to be objects about as valuable as equivalent objects of our world.

Unrelated thought, how many hobbits are in the Shire? Is there enough to farm those 11,520,000 acres?
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I think a better understanding of the value of the famous mithril coat comes from the following reference, "Before Moria was abandoned by the Dwarves, while it was still being actively mined, mithril was worth ten times its weight in gold."

By the time of the LoTR, the metal is no longer being mined and thus is exceptionally vaulable because it is exceptionally rare - sort of the famous alluminum fork of Emperor Napoleon. It's not by no means unique.

The Dwarves' beloved metal appears also in Gondor. The Guards of the Citadel of Minas Tirith wear helmets of mithril, "heirlooms from the glory of old days".

Of course there is a massive difference between a helmit and a whole coat. Being so unique literally makes it priceless.
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violence in the media wrote:Unrelated thought, how many hobbits are in the Shire? Is there enough to farm those 11,520,000 acres?
There's been a disturbing amount of speculation, but the text doesn't allow for anything but estimates. Even the more scholarly guesses that reference old agrarian population densities are handicapped by not knowing if a hobbit actually eats any more or less than a normal human. There really isn't any consensus even to how many figures the number has; a couple of tens of thousands on the lowest guesses, a couple of million on the very high end.
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If you go by the general references of the various hobbits in the book (I forget if they ate two or three breakfasts off hand) I think they would eat slightly more than the typical medieval human. On the other hand there may be evidence to suggest that their agriculture was slightly above that of medieval farming, so that might just be a wash.

Toklein himself was highly influenced by early 20th century rural life, so the shire is acutally a idealized version of a more modern time without modern technology. Thus the math gets abstract and fuzzy. I seriously doubt, however the entire shire was "developed."
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