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The Obligatory Rules Thread, Take Two
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Jilocasin
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

How hard would it be to make it so that the posts of a person you have on ignore don't show up at all for you?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Could you limit multiposting only to the person who started the thread? That seems like it would free the primary author up to multipost for things that need it while preventing anyone else from spamming the hell out of the thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

violence in the media wrote:
Could you limit multiposting only to the person who started the thread? That seems like it would free the primary author up to multipost for things that need it while preventing anyone else from spamming the hell out of the thread.


There's still problems with stuff like the Crazy News threads, where there are legitimately four or five conversations going on at once in one sprawling mega thread. Some people log in only once a day or once in several days, and it is reasonable for them to post once on one of the sub topics and then again on another one.

The issue really is that Zinegata's own justification for his behavior is that he was "sending Kaelik's inane shit back at him." Now, leaving aside the fact that Kaelik's statement was not "inane shit" and was in fact a presentation of a formal substitution to identify a formal fallacy, and the fact that Zinegata started doing that to every single person on the thread before it got locked, the fact remains that Zinegata's trollapalooza was identified as inane shit posting by Zinegata.

I absolutely don't understand why we are having a conversation about how to change the rules when the problem is 0% the rules and 100% the actions of a self admitted troll!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FrankTrollman wrote:
I absolutely don't understand why we are having a conversation about how to change the rules when the problem is 0% the rules and 100% the actions of a self admitted troll!

-Frank


This. Exactly this.

As much as people bitch about me, if they're honest with themselves at least they will admit that I rarely post here, don't do the things that make them bitch except in response to stupidity, and am in no way comparable to Zinegata even when in full on Smite Imbecile mode.

His stated purpose in existence is to fuck up the Den. Applying a rule that hinders legitimate multiposting, simply because some fucktard can't copy paste means he is succeeding. Which of course is why he advocated it in the first place.

If anyone is to have their posting limited, it should be him. Either by a simple ban, or by putting him, but not others on a timer. There's probably a usergroup for that. I dunno.

And as long as we're here, can we start up the PF thread again with a Zine stay out?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Quote:

His stated purpose in existence is to fuck up the Den.


I keep hearing this. I am (100% honestly) interested in a cite, because I do not recall seeing this.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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I absolutely don't understand why we are having a conversation about how to change the rules when the problem is 0% the rules and 100% the actions of a self admitted troll!

-Frank


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Jilocasin wrote:
How hard would it be to make it so that the posts of a person you have on ignore don't show up at all for you?


Forwarded to the IT Department.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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I'm not locking this thread in case legitimate Rules questions pop up, but I don't want anymore the Zinegata controversy. As I said, I am weighing options.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

fbmf wrote:
Jilocasin wrote:
How hard would it be to make it so that the posts of a person you have on ignore don't show up at all for you?


Forwarded to the IT Department.

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In theory it doesn't sound difficult - I would need to modify the code so that instead of hiding it behind a "spoiler box" (more or less) it just completely removes the post from the thread.

However, I don't know the computer language the software is written in -- I can translate enough to hack through some simple stuff, but I'm not especially comfortable making what would be a major change to the query and code behind the scenes.

In some cases, I'm still willing to try to hack through it to get things working (the e-mail problem is an example). However, I'm not convinced the benefits of this change are worth the efforts involved - especially given some of the other tasks still on my to-do list.

Or, in other words, I think the current status of the "ignore" function is about as good as it's going to get for a while.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

What language are the queries written in? SQL?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sort of - though I know SQL. It's the php part of the code I don't know.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If that change goes through, I would go and empty my ignore list. I recognize that people on my ignore list occasionally say useful things and aren't necessarily ignored by the board at large, so the ability to go back and see those things is very useful. If I can't do that without just removing them, I'm probably not going to have them on there in the first place.

So please Z, take all the time you need. And then more. There's no rush.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I know it's no longer allowed that people wish death (or other horribleness) on others, nor that they threaten to do so, but what's the stance on threatening to make fun of someone on the Internet?

Also, on politely requesting that someone put some serious consideration into suicide?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Koumei wrote:
Also, on politely requesting that someone put some serious consideration into suicide?

fbmf wrote:
This includes telling someone they should "Die in a fire" and similar sentiments.

Duh.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ah right, forgot that bit. Still, threatening to say mean things about someone on the Internet?

I assume this one is okay, given:

A) If it is carried out, there is still no criminal activity going on/no-one gets hurt
and B) It's easy to spot the humour there.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Give me an example.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Oh, it hasn't happened yet, I'm just wondering if I'm allowed to, for instance, say "Plebian, if you spew this shit out one more time without reading the reply to it, I will say mean things to or about you. On the Internet."
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah, that'd be fine.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I only skimmed the thread, so I apologize if this has been asked before, but what about posting links to products or playtests? I'm a developer and I'm interested in asking for testers here if possible.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, we ask each other for opinions on games we've heard about all the time ("Hey, so I just read about [X the Y], and it looks vaguely interesting but overall like a huge crock of shit, anyone have any thoughts on it?"). I imagine the issue is in "self promotion" but I don't think there's a huge issue there, assuming you don't spontaneously turn into an adbot and can take the Den's way of critiquing things, and offering those critiques.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks for the heads-up, Prak_Anima. I'm pretty committed to being a genuine contributor here. I'll make sure to keep things low-key and sincere.

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echoVanguard wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up, Prak_Anima. I'm pretty committed to being a genuine contributor here. I'll make sure to keep things low-key and sincere.

echo


Low key is not required.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FrankTrollman wrote:
echoVanguard wrote:
I'll make sure to keep things low-key and sincere.

echo


Low key is not required.

-Frank


Well, I kind of figured the other side of the spectrum was pretty well-covered already... Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

echoVanguard wrote:
FrankTrollman wrote:
echoVanguard wrote:
I'll make sure to keep things low-key and sincere.

echo


Low key is not required.

-Frank


Well, I kind of figured the other side of the spectrum was pretty well-covered already... Cool

echo


I wouldn't recomend low-key.

when I politely tell people that something they said was making me angry, I'm told that I'm over-reacting. When I tell people to eat all the dicks, then no one makes any notice.

I don't understand it either, I just roll with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:


I wouldn't recomend low-key.

when I politely tell people that something they said was making me angry, I'm told that I'm over-reacting. When I tell people to eat all the dicks, then no one makes any notice.

I don't understand it either, I just roll with it.


I think it was GENCON 2008 (May have been 2009...I attended one or the other but not both.) when I learned that tgdmb had this reputation.

I don't disagree that it is deserved, but rather I was stunned that:

(A) People I had never heard of and who don't regularly post here knew the culture of tgdmb well enough to comment intelligently on it. I had no idea we were so well known in the gaming community, and

(B) They seemed to speak of said reputation as if it were a good thing. For the record, to the best of my knowledge they had no idea I was the admin or even a regular poster until the conversation was over.

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Anyhow, I agree with Prak that as long as you don't start spam advertising us, asking for criticism of your system is not a problem at all.

Be forewarned: No regular poster will think twice before telling you what they think of your system and how it reflects on you personally.
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