Wizard PRCs

[Sententia]

I'm currently running a 5th level wizard in a 3.5 Forgotten Realms campaign. A Deck of Many Things left me with four levels to gain at once. He's neutral good. Does anyone know any awesome wizard PRCs?

[Cielingcat]

Incatatrix makes everyone cry, if you're into that.

[fbmf]

Not so much in 3.5, but the 3.0 version does in fact reduce grown men to tears.

Harper Mage works kind of the same way.

Game on,
fbmf

[Judging__Eagle]

After level 9, take a level of bard.

Then Sublime Chord.

Then Ultimate Magus.

You`ll have caster lvl of... 11 in bard, sub chord and wizard. I forget how, but that`s nifty.

[Iaimeki]

1172190313[/unixtime]]Not so much in 3.5, but the 3.0 version does in fact reduce grown men to tears.

This is a D&D urban myth: the 3.5 version of incantatrix is far more broken then 3.0 version. Metamagic effect allows you to make any spell you want Persistent provided you can cheese a skill check, which frankly isn't that hard. Cooperative metamagic lets you make other people's spells Persistent the same way, as well as abusing offensive metamagic stacking and things like Quickening other people's buffs. Finally, metamagic spell trigger lets you burn cash to cause massive carnage, letting you kill things way above your ECL with appropriate item choices.

In comparison, all the 3.0 incantatrix gets is some immunities that can be replicated with spells. Decent, but not outstanding.

[User3]

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1172190313[/unixtime]]Not so much in 3.5, but the 3.0 version does in fact reduce grown men to tears.

This is a D&D urban myth: the 3.5 version of incantatrix is far more broken then 3.0 version. Metamagic effect allows you to make any spell you want Persistent provided you can cheese a skill check, which frankly isn't that hard. Cooperative metamagic lets you make other people's spells Persistent the same way, as well as abusing offensive metamagic stacking and things like Quickening other people's buffs. Finally, metamagic spell trigger lets you burn cash to cause massive carnage, letting you kill things way above your ECL with appropriate item choices.

In comparison, all the 3.0 incantatrix gets is some immunities that can be replicated with spells. Decent, but not outstanding.

Otherwise known as: fbmf, can I play in your games with a 3.5 incantatrix? Please? I mean, you don't think they're that bad...

[User3]

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Harper Mage works kind of the same way.

Game on,
fbmf

Wizard 5 ... then segue into Harper Mage for 2 levels.

Then go into Unseen Seer and be sure to take the Practiced Spellcaster feat for the CL offset of non-Divination spells. The feat acquisition is not burdensome at all to a fleshed out build.

Unseen Seer + PS feat = No Downside + Lots of Awesome. Full SC Levels and skill ranks up the hoo-hah.

[fbmf]

Where is Unseen Seer from?

Game On,
fbmf

[User3]

Complete Mage.

[Josh_Kablack]

In comparison, all the 3.0 incantatrix gets is some immunities that can be replicated with spells. Decent, but not outstanding.

I have a hard time believing you on the 3.5 version in light of that comment.

The 3.0 version got to spelldance to actually infinite stats.

[Iaimeki]

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I have a hard time believing you on the 3.5 version in light of that comment.
The 3.0 version got to spelldance to actually infinite stats.

Are we talking about the same PrC? The spelldancer can stack Empower on the 3.0 versions of the 1+1d4 to a stat spells to get infinite stats.

[erik]

A process made viable by synergy with the Incantatrix's metamagic reduction ability.

[Catharz]

1172394078[/unixtime]]A process made viable by synergy with the Incantatrix's metamagic reduction ability.

It was viable already.

[Fwib]

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1172190313[/unixtime]]
Harper Mage works kind of the same way.

Game on,
fbmf

Wizard 5 ... then segue into Harper Mage for 2 levels.

Then go into Unseen Seer and be sure to take the Practiced Spellcaster feat for the CL offset of non-Divination spells. The feat acquisition is not burdensome at all to a fleshed out build.

Unseen Seer + PS feat = No Downside + Lots of Awesome. Full SC Levels and skill ranks up the hoo-hah.

Can you get into Unseen Seer as a Wizard5/Harper Mage2 ? unless I am missing some errata or some way to get it as a class skill, you can't get enough ranks in search.