Proposed Game: Desire and the Dead (Tome)

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:22 am

Ubernoob: You are correct, it seems, about the weapons. I was under the impression we were trying to avoid simple numberic bonuses.

As for the feat, I'm using it to test it. Trial by fire. I'm hoping to improve as flaws become readily apparent.

Akula, what do you think about the item?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:27 am

God_of_Awesome wrote:Ubernoob: You are correct, it seems, about the weapons. I was under the impression we were trying to avoid simple numberic bonuses.

As for the feat, I'm using it to test it. Trial by fire. I'm hoping to improve as flaws become readily apparent.

Akula, what do you think about the item?

The trip effect is fine. The disarm is fucking retarded and should be replaced with something that isn't retarded. Here's an example of "not retarded"

+1: Since you hold such a big weapon, you are treated as having a +2 cover bonus to AC.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:31 am

Alright, is disarm bad because it too weak or because it too strong?

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:33 am

So, GoA is looking for samurai armor, ideally scary samurai armor. In Oriental Adventures, this is called Great Armor.

http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Races_of ... reat_Armor

Oh look.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:36 am

God_of_Awesome wrote:Alright, is disarm bad because it too weak or because it too strong?

It's worded in a shitty manner and disarm is already fine in tome rules. Basically, your idea is just really incredibly shitty beyond words so we're going to replace it with something that isn't.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:10 am

The only problem I've seen with my feat auto-disarming something is that it is vague about what is disarmed. I will fix that.

Uber, I'm gonna put this through trial by fire and I will humbly acede to your opinion if it does prove to suck.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:46 am

God_of_Awesome wrote:The only problem I've seen with my feat auto-disarming something is that it is vague about what is disarmed. I will fix that.

It's a strength based save vs "Cannot cast or attack with natural weapons" every round. That's not only vague, but bullshit out of line with +1 abilities.

Uber, I'm gonna put this through trial by fire and I will humbly acede to your opinion if it does prove to suck.

No, your idea is shitty and needs to be something that isn't a shitty idea.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:56 am

ubernoob wrote:
God_of_Awesome wrote:The only problem I've seen with my feat auto-disarming something is that it is vague about what is disarmed. I will fix that.
It's a strength based save vs "Cannot cast or attack with natural weapons" every round. That's not only vague, but bullshit out of line with +1 abilities.

Especially considering that it's usable by a 2nd level cleric.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:17 am

CatharzGodfoot wrote:
ubernoob wrote:
God_of_Awesome wrote:The only problem I've seen with my feat auto-disarming something is that it is vague about what is disarmed. I will fix that.
It's a strength based save vs "Cannot cast or attack with natural weapons" every round. That's not only vague, but bullshit out of line with +1 abilities.
Especially considering that it's usable by a 2nd level cleric.

So it's too powerful?

And it Dex based save.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:42 am

I think I will do away with the feat altogether. Much of my mistakes stem from inexperience and I hardly should be questioning design decisions when I honestly don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

I'll use a different feat and see what this game teaches me.

Edit: I took the Dreadful Demeanor feat.

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:54 pm

Potential summoning houserules including a new branch of Summon spell and altered durations:

FrankTrollman wrote:
Gelare wrote:Can someone give me a list of things that Summon Spirits is supposed to summon? So far I've been using the Summon Monster list, but those things suck donkey balls.
That seems reasonable. Off hand, Summon Spirits should probably have a fixed duration of something like 10 minutes. Long enough to pull a critter in to do some physical thing that isn't "stab a fool" but not so long that you could cash in your spell slots for all day armies.

Summon Spirits I
Grig

Bogun

Myconid Worker

Summon Spirits II
Small Elemental

Nixie

Petal

Summon Spirits III
Allip

Dusk Beast

Medium Elemental

Dryad

Summon Spirits IV
Energon

Large Elemental

Wraith

Summon Spirits V
Oread

Nymph

Spectre

Summon Spirits VI
Huge Elemental

Umbral Banyan

Kelp Angler

Summon Spirits VII
Greater Elemental

Cauchemar

Spirit of the Air

Summon Spirits VIII
Dao

Living Holocaust

Elder Elemental

Summon Spirits IX
Elemental Monolith

Aoa Sphere

Omnielemental

Something like that.

Any thoughts?

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:49 am

So I got all the kinks worked out of my character, used an established feat instead of my homebrewed one, made sure everything was nice and tidy.

Would you like me to use normal +1 weaponry or can I keep what I got?

Otherwise, am I good to go?

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:05 am

The evil katana is plothax. Since it you aren't using it normally, and you don't know what its powers are, it doesn't count against your magic item limit. Just make your armor +1.

Also, I'm surprised you didn't give yourself more skill ranks.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:21 am

Avoraciopoctules wrote:The evil katana is plothax. Since it you aren't using it normally, and you don't know what its powers are, it doesn't count against your magic item limit. Just make your armor +1.

Also, I'm surprised you didn't give yourself more skill ranks.

Is... Is plothax bad?

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:26 am

Depends on how you feel about being hax0red. It's good in the sense that it gives me something to cackle maniacally over. It isn't going to break the game. It is hypothetically possible for the party to turn it into an NPC ally.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:34 am

Oh, alright.

Also, your comments about my skills made me feel inadequate so I went back and changed it.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:41 am

It seems you added a whole three points...How are you not still inadequate? Give yourself some ranks, because 18 total skill ranks are less than a level one character with your stats and class would normally have. Bare fucking minimum, you have 30 ranks (4+1)*6; you should probably give some flavor ranks on top of that for knowledge skills and shit.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:42 am

Akula wrote:It seems you added a whole three points...How are you not still inadequate? Give yourself some ranks, because 18 total skill ranks are less than a level one character with your stats and class would normally have. Bare fucking minimum, you have 30 ranks (4+1)*6; you should probably give some flavor ranks on top of that for knowledge skills and shit.

4+1*6?

Well, THAT'S NEW.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:45 am

12 Int=1 rank per level, Samurai class=4 ranks per level, and you get *4 skill ranks at level one.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:50 am

I boosted intel to 14 so 4+2*6=36.

And done.

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:37 am

Hey, Mister_Sinister, where is your unicorn?

koz · Post by **koz** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:47 am

Currently, at a stable, eating hay and loudly complaining to anyone who will listen about how much better country life is. Why do you ask?

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:11 am

No real reason, just curious. I kinda suspected that he would be doing something like that though. Also, by my reading, wearing shoes would give you the bonus to any disguise check. Others will suffer the normal penalty for trying to be a different race of course.

koz · Post by **koz** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:18 pm

Yeah, that's what I thought as well.

God_of_Awesome · Post by **God_of_Awesome** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:58 pm

Okay, got proper amount of skill points (Fuck, how did I forget that x4 1st level bonus? I actually know that shit), equipment is fine, feats are all from approved sources (IE, not me), I've read up on the IC thread and everything seems to be in order.

When can I jump in? I was thinking just already being at the bar when everyone comes back from their mission.