Josh_Kablack wrote:But that won't happen, mainly because my players won't let me drink Sake at the game table ever again...
I had an NPC who, the first time he made an appearance in the campaign, got horribly drunk because the PCs offered him shochu from their recently-captured enemy fort in a pseudo-Japanese land. I had an actual bottle of shochu on hand, so I grabbed it and some sake cups and decided to roleplay out the encounter with...props. During their conversation, one of the PCs kept refilling the NPC's cup, more or less forcing him--me--to continue drinking.
I think that night's game session ended slightly early on account of me being too drunk to MC, which, as any gamer inclined toward booze will tell you, is kind of like being too drunk to fish.
P.C. Hodgell wrote:That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.
shadzar wrote:i think the apostrophe is an outdated idea such as is hyphenation.
Hrm, thanks for pointing out that Shōchū loophole: Engrish DungeonCreepXGO! Drinking much dicefun always!
To Intro: Village of you peacetime no more. Evil Wizard Looms dark now. Age phones for heroes many. Is YOU! Seeker lost Talisman in many basements to unloom wizard!
Sadly, I'm way too sober to write the rest of this now....
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"But transportation issues are social-justice issues. The toll of bad transit policies and worse infrastructure—trains and buses that don’t run well and badly serve low-income neighborhoods, vehicular traffic that pollutes the environment and endangers the lives of cyclists and pedestrians—is borne disproportionately by black and brown communities."
magnuskn wrote:So, is nobody going to comment on the revised Magus, now that it is out for playtesting?
It's the same Fail as before. What do you want, smitings? It's already gotten those.
There is no reason why you would not just play a Duskblade instead. And Duskblades are not that good. They aren't bad, but that automatically makes the Magus below average, yet shiny to trap the noobs. Standard Paizil Fare.
Draco_Argentum wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.
Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?
Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.
Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.
Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
magnuskn wrote:So, is nobody going to comment on the revised Magus, now that it is out for playtesting?
It's the same Fail as before. What do you want, smitings? It's already gotten those.
There is no reason why you would not just play a Duskblade instead. And Duskblades are not that good. They aren't bad, but that automatically makes the Magus below average, yet shiny to trap the noobs. Standard Paizil Fare.
Well, the point is that it isn't the same as before, unless my eyes deceive me. Spell Combat has lost the concentration check every round, so that is a big upgrade already.
magnuskn wrote:So, is nobody going to comment on the revised Magus, now that it is out for playtesting?
It's the same Fail as before. What do you want, smitings? It's already gotten those.
There is no reason why you would not just play a Duskblade instead. And Duskblades are not that good. They aren't bad, but that automatically makes the Magus below average, yet shiny to trap the noobs. Standard Paizil Fare.
Well, the point is that it isn't the same as before, unless my eyes deceive me. Spell Combat has lost the concentration check every round, so that is a big upgrade already.
You're still a Wizard light who can do nothing but lightly fan the enemy with his sword. You still can't hit anything with said sword to tickle it instead of fanning it.
Draco_Argentum wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.
Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?
Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.
Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.
Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
Roy wrote:
It's the same Fail as before. What do you want, smitings? It's already gotten those.
There is no reason why you would not just play a Duskblade instead. And Duskblades are not that good. They aren't bad, but that automatically makes the Magus below average, yet shiny to trap the noobs. Standard Paizil Fare.
Well, the point is that it isn't the same as before, unless my eyes deceive me. Spell Combat has lost the concentration check every round, so that is a big upgrade already.
You're still a Wizard light who can do nothing but lightly fan the enemy with his sword. You still can't hit anything with said sword to tickle it instead of fanning it.
Eh, well. If the class was As Good As A Wizard wasn't exactly what I was talking about. I thought someone might want to take a look at the changes from the first version.
*edit* fixed quoting mistake.
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Well, they did improve it over the beta, but still it is kind of weaker than a Gish.
The Make any magic weapon better ability is nice, but limited/day and duration.
So counting that they have same attack bonus as a any warrior, but for a limited time only.
The point is that if you're like xxx, but worse, you're pointless even if you'd otherwise be good. But the Magus also fails on its own merits, as it's a gish that can't gish. I'd take a Bard over one any day. If it's a Pathfailure Bard I'd deliberate about it, but still likely take the damn Bard.
Draco_Argentum wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.
Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?
Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.
Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.
Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
RobbyPants wrote:You put your own response inside of Roy's quote tag.
Thanks, just noticed. Corrected.
Roy wrote:The point is that if you're like xxx, but worse, you're pointless even if you'd otherwise be good. But the Magus also fails on its own merits, as it's a gish that can't gish. I'd take a Bard over one any day. If it's a Pathfailure Bard I'd deliberate about it, but still likely take the damn Bard.
Really? The bard is really good at boosting people and buffing itself up, but the Magus seems to be good at blasting and some utility. I don't think the two compare very well.
the Magus seems to be good at blasting and some utility
The wizard is better at both.
Well, of course that goes without saying. I see your point, but is the class automatically bad because of that? Pure classes are of course better at what they do than hybrid classes, but as hybrid classes go, how does the new Magus fare?
the Magus seems to be good at blasting and some utility
The wizard is better at both.
Well, of course that goes without saying. I see your point, but is the class automatically bad because of that? Pure classes are of course better at what they do than hybrid classes, but as hybrid classes go, how does the new Magus fare?
Maybe the question is: do you really need a new class that is worse, because you couldn't flesh out a core class according to your ideas? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea behind the magus and all the other hybrid classes quite a bit, but they should be really good in what they're doing because thats supposed to be their thing.
the Magus seems to be good at blasting and some utility
The wizard is better at both.
Well, of course that goes without saying. I see your point, but is the class automatically bad because of that? Pure classes are of course better at what they do than hybrid classes, but as hybrid classes go, how does the new Magus fare?
It's not just that a wizard is stronger. It's that a wizard can multiclass and become an Eldritch Knight and be the same thing as the magus, but better.
PF already had a gish with Eldritch Knight, but they decided to make a new one that's worse. The only thing that magus does better is that it can be a gish at level 1. From level 7 onward, it's strictly worse.
Comparing it against other hybrid classes is meaningless when there are other options that do the same thing, but better.
the Magus seems to be good at blasting and some utility
The wizard is better at both.
Well, of course that goes without saying. I see your point, but is the class automatically bad because of that? Pure classes are of course better at what they do than hybrid classes, but as hybrid classes go, how does the new Magus fare?
But the issue: if the Wizard is better: why be anything else?
Why not make the Magus full BAB so the Magus is better (at least till 14th level when it lacks higher level magic compared to Wizard).
Currently, it stops at about 9th-10th level when Wizard is equal (after that Wizard is better).
Full BAB means it makes a better gish in the longer short term.
RobbyPants wrote: PF already had a gish with Eldritch Knight, but they decided to make a new one that's worse.
Actually, they had two, if you count the Dragon Disciple. Or three, if you count the Arcane Archer. Or four, if you count the Arcane Duelist bard variant from the Advanced Player's Guide.
The Magus is a trap option, like the Monk. It penalizes new players who don't know any better by giving them a substandard class. Paizo isn't afraid of making classes that function at or new the Wizard balance point (Summoner, Oracle?, Witch?) so I don't know why they keep oscillating the power level. Oh, right, they probably don't know what they're doing.
Juton wrote:The Magus is a trap option, like the Monk. It penalizes new players who don't know any better by giving them a substandard class. Paizo isn't afraid of making classes that function at or new the Wizard balance point (Summoner, Oracle?, Witch?) so I don't know why they keep oscillating the power level. Oh, right, they probably don't know what they're doing.
Indeed. Their thing is making shiny but useless class features. In other words, deliberately making trap options. And the Paizils wonder why the term Caster Edition has caught on so well.
Draco_Argentum wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.
Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?
Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.
Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.
Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
1) Players seem experienced, mostly. The wizard took Color Spray and Sleep, so that's something.
2) Cavalier-princess is the exception. 18 Str, 16 Cha, and 14 Dex and 10 Con. I believe there will be much healing of her.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
Anyone notice how the player of the "Catgirl Maid Prostitute" specifically indicated in the introduction that their character would be irritating to the rest? I don't think I've ever seen a player be so explicit about creating a character to annoy others before.
"But transportation issues are social-justice issues. The toll of bad transit policies and worse infrastructure—trains and buses that don’t run well and badly serve low-income neighborhoods, vehicular traffic that pollutes the environment and endangers the lives of cyclists and pedestrians—is borne disproportionately by black and brown communities."
