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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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Crissa wrote:The first catgirl...

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OK.. you win. I LOL'd.
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http://wen-m.deviantart.com/gallery/#_featured

Check this guy out.

It seems like every picture I look at makes my jaw drop.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Maxus wrote:It seems like every picture I look at makes my jaw drop.
Seconded. There are some really great inspirations for characters in there.

Thanx for sharing the link.
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They all scream LSD/psychosis inspired tho obviously not done while... But most of the big classics were.

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Crissa wrote:They all scream LSD/psychosis inspired tho obviously not done while... But most of the big classics were.

-Crissa
I was thinking that was the artist's source of inspiration along about the time I say the Crystal/Earth T-Rex.

Apparently, a lot of it's art for a tabletop/trading card/miscellaneous game called Anima.

Anyone know anything about it, apart from it not being out yet?
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Maxus wrote:
Crissa wrote:They all scream LSD/psychosis inspired tho obviously not done while... But most of the big classics were.

-Crissa
I was thinking that was the artist's source of inspiration along about the time I say the Crystal/Earth T-Rex.

Apparently, a lot of it's art for a tabletop/trading card/miscellaneous game called Anima.

Anyone know anything about it, apart from it not being out yet?
The Anima property covers a boxed card game, an RPG, and a collectible minis game. I've had a look at all three and found them lacklustre. The art really is the best part. Any specific questions?
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angelfromanotherpin wrote:
Maxus wrote:
Crissa wrote:They all scream LSD/psychosis inspired tho obviously not done while... But most of the big classics were.

-Crissa
I was thinking that was the artist's source of inspiration along about the time I say the Crystal/Earth T-Rex.

Apparently, a lot of it's art for a tabletop/trading card/miscellaneous game called Anima.

Anyone know anything about it, apart from it not being out yet?
The Anima property covers a boxed card game, an RPG, and a collectible minis game. I've had a look at all three and found them lacklustre. The art really is the best part. Any specific questions?
Not really. I was just wondering if anyone here had heard about it?

Shame that the rest of it doesn't live up to the art. I'd dearly love to have to disposable income for a commission...
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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The card game is so so, I haven't seen the RPG, the minis game is actually remarkably interesting, but I'm holding out for its rule book release rather than just the starter minis before I commit to saying it is excellent.

The minis game is interesting on several points, primarily the RPG party sized scale of forces and some really nice action point mechanics.
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This made me laugh.

http://antiquesandthearts.com/Antiques/ ... 01-03.html

Partly because it's so cool-looking.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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That website makes me sad. Especially because rather than addressing and possibly helping those who actually have Asperger's syndrome, it feeds into the self-diagnosed (hooray for Wikipedia Doctors!) "it makes me so smart and unique!" Ass-burgers.

And it is our job as responsible people to mock the self-diagnosed and to ruin their credibility, for if it becomes acceptable then the next thing we'll have is "I have a tummy ache. Oh noes, I'm dying of an ulcer! Heavens, having made Zhou Yu, why also Zhuge Liang? Sympathy plx" or "You know, I reckon I have cancer. Better get some sympathy. And oxycodone."
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Hey, I have Aspergers. Never even heard of it until I was diagnosed along about 13 years old. Middle school was hell for me, because I didn't go through that "cruelty" stage and caught a lot of flack for bringing a book to read each day. Also, it's profoundly depressing when you're the only person in the cafeteria who doesn't stand up to watch a fight. Or the only person in a hallway who thinks it's a good thing when two guys have a confrontation but *don't* fight.

Yeah, it'd be nice to be normal. If I were normal, I'd probably be able to hang out with a crowd of people and not feel like I'm looking through a mask. Oh, yeah, I can pretty much function--but I still have to watch myself to make sure I don't talk too fast or bring up something too weird. It's a little depressing, too, to know that most people don't get what I find funny.

On the other hand, I doubt there's some magical 'cure' for autistic disorders, since it seems to be brain structure and, like genetics, that's so complicated that trying to 'correct' would require technologies and techniques and knowledge that we won't have for decades.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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Yeah, but you're not self-diagnosed. An actual doctor gave you that diagnosis as opposed to the people out there who read a Wiki article and decided "Yeah, that's me! Now it means I'm super-smart, and have an excuse to be a dick."

I have no qualms with actual aspies - my girlfriend is a real Aspie - I have problems with the self-diagnosed.
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I'm fairly sure I have Anti-Social Disorder. Doesn't seem to be a problem though.
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I can understand why the website takes such a positive--and at time, silly--tone with it, though.

After all, it's damn irritating to have people speak learnedly about how you're broken and need to be fixed, when from where you stand, so-called normal people have LOTS wrong with them.

A website I found once--something about the Research of the Neurologically Typical--made a joke out of how you could describe anything as being a bad thing, using the right world and choosing your facts. Like, for example, high-school age neurotypicals 'form gang-like cliques and engage in character assassination in order to socially ruin those different from themselves'.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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What bugs me the most is that people often use it as an excuse not to learn.

But in no case is it actually impossible to learn. Our brains form structures at all ages and after any damage. It can adapt.

Learning that you learn in a different way should be a lesson that you need to adapt how you learn, not a reason to quit trying.

Grr.

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I saw this on a blog. Truly, we* have gone too far.

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That is pure win, especially because Rick Astley himself played a part in it. He can take a joke or two.
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We're really luck we got Rick Astley instead of somebody who objects and would make a big deal out of it.
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Maxus wrote:On the other hand, I doubt there's some magical 'cure' for autistic disorders, since it seems to be brain structure and, like genetics, that's so complicated that trying to 'correct' would require technologies and techniques and knowledge that we won't have for decades.
No cure beyond using a retrovirus to restructure your genes.

I'm fine being who I am, which is (unironically) very similar to your own past Maxus, and I raaage a little when those ads for "Vaccine mercury gave my kid autism!" sites and commercials appear.

ubernoob, you're not antisocial. I see evidence otherwise throughout your tales of college. That's a misdiagnosis (or a joke?). Also, don't take medication such as antidepressants; they won't help, and probably give you more problems since the origin of your 'problem' isn't mood related to being with.
You probably communicate nonverbally different from most others but by far not antisocial.

IMO the best solution for social difficulties is to move to some place where inherent and unchangeable personality traits like ours are favorable, such as in Japan, Sweden, Germany, etc.
Maybe some kind of Arab culture where it's considered rude to goggle-eye someone and bare teeth like a hyena ever few minutes in casual conversation. Yeah. I'd like that.

Worst part about growing up: being told to "pay attention" by various teachers just because I didn't look at them when they talked. Sure, I listened and comprehended (if given enough time to process things on my own, which I didn't get often), but the sporadic distraction and embarrassment of being singled out and made an example of for being a "problem child" and "poor student" (and consequently bullied.. I fought a lot as a child) for looking away both confused and angered me for far too long.
As direct result of the constant social stresses in school I actually became a worse student. It's hard to focus on learning when you're being slapped in the back of the head, insulted by your teacher of all people, or shoved in to yet another fistfight because an unspoken social rule was broken. I was even interrogated by a cop once for being "at risk" after Columbine.
I saw other kids with ADD or autistic difficulties turn to violence, weed, depression, or just plain drop out from difficulties by high school, but didn't think I'd become one of those students to give up too (turned the anger inward rather than fight back since I was punished by parents and school system for physically defending myself as a child.)

I was officially diagnosed with Asperger by a state service at 23.
Fucking stupid label. People say "ass burgers?" and I say "mild autism" and they say "You don't look autistic. I know an autistic kid; he throws shit on the walls" or "So, you're a retard?" or "Like Rainman?"
Every once in a while I meet someone, also Asperger, that tells me what I appear to be. In retrospect I should have investigated the matter earlier in life such as, say, when I was told at 17 by a Jewish girl in a creative writing course.
Thank you, Amy, I remember.

Relations with my mother have still degraded as she still struggles to accept that there is no medication for my learning problems and no cure for my "made-up allergy to eye contact" as she says.
And as if to think I almost believed my own mother that I was schizophrenic and bipolar (like her) for all the problems throughout public education.
Main reason why she claims there's no way I'm autistic: "You need to work on eye contact. Looking away is passive-aggressive and you need to stop doing it. It's rude, inconsiderate, and disrespectful."
I also remind her of her alcoholic father.

Asperger discussion forums are a bad thing. Navel gazing like that sometimes has perks and it's good to acknowledge ones weaknesses but in that incarnation it's the wrong direction.
Try this one: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 95165.html
Not everyone is a math genius though. That's just his specialty.
I'm a synesthete like him and do math with pictures in my head (yet by far no genius... if anything, I'm mathtarded) but I'm the "artistic type".
It's like.. I can't not make music. I need to. It hurts not to.
I see sound and taste color. My girlfriend makes fun of me for it.


People need to focus on improving strengths rather than picking at flaws.
Education systems worldwide need an overhaul; we're losing thousands of geniuses, inventors, and explorers (yes, ADD has advantages) every year to the public education cesspools.

Don't read Temple Grandin; she's a special case. Nothing she wrote about helped me.
Read about Heather Kuzmich, Bill Gates, and Marc Segar for more relevant examples.
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Pardon the previous 'essay'. I've had time to kill this evening and a lot on my mind about the subject.

Here's a shoop I made of the comic "Parasite". Alien-infected people become cruel and expressionless, much like in the movie The Invasion with Nicole Kidman.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/ ... 09-029.jpg

Sortof funny, one can almost recognize autistic traits by the lessened extent to which the person uses eyebrows and eyes while talking, let alone any muscle other than the mouth. While acting is possible, sure I do it all the time, if you catch the person off-guard or when they are concentrating it's a dead giveaway.
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Siggy, I'm fairly certain I have it, but I'm fairly certain it isn't actually a flaw with the way I've built myself.
Wiki wrote:Three or more of the following are required:[1]

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
Thrice. I'm too smart to get caught nowadays, but laws are a joke in my mind.
2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
I've toned down this with a deliberate choice in recent months. Used to put me at risk all the time.
3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
I've gotten into a *lot* of fights and I fight to win. Only my MASSIVE reading and manipulation skills combined with my small size mean that I don't actually need to get physical any more. Now I'm able to inflict more pain without lifting a finger. I use sharper weapons than fists.
5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.
Either I follow my code of honor better than any man I've ever heard of or I was born without the ability to feel remorse or regret.

So, there's a solid chance I have it, but have it so massively controlled (individuals that learn to control it and have ability levels anywhere near what I have been gifted with tend to become politicians and CEOs) that it isn't actually a problem.

Let's look at symptoms.
Wiki wrote:Characteristics of people with antisocial personality disorder may include:[citation needed]

* Persistent lying or stealing
* Recurring difficulties with the law
* Tendency to violate the rights and boundaries of others
* Substance abuse
* Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
* A persistent agitated or depressed feeling (dysphoria)

* Inability to tolerate boredom
* Disregard for the safety of self or others
* A childhood diagnosis of conduct disorders - this is not a symptom but "a history of"
* Lack of remorse, related to hurting others
* Superficial charm
* Impulsiveness
* A sense of extreme entitlement
* Inability to make or keep friends
* Recklessness, impulsivity[4][5]

* People with a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder often experience difficulties with authority figures.[6]
I've bolded the ones that I've experienced in a more than passing manner. The ones that are not bolded are things I've repressed due to either:
A) My upbringing (learning the value of hard work, etc)
B) My natural ability (making friends is easy; actually wanting to be friends with people is the hard part because most people don't meet my standards)
C) My logic emphasis (I plan everything)

So, it looks like I'm part of the minority that is able to use AsPD rather than being used by it. Of course I also have elements of narcissistic personality disorder.

-shrug-

If I have any disorders I handle them well enough that they are advantages.
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I'm lucky. My only problem at the moment is not getting laid enough. Unfortunately, I have yet to figure out how to turn that into an advantage.
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ubernoob wrote: If I have any disorders I handle them well enough that they are advantages.
If only quadruplegics could do the same. Hmm...

I'm also mildly epileptic, a trait that I've discovered is also shared with every member of my immediate family except my mother. Or dog. Or cat. Or frog.
While not exactly something I can use to advantage, I have learned since childhood to never tell anyone I can't trust because it turns out there are yet still some very strange prejudices against epileptics in this culture, maybe others.
For instance, while it's not legal to discriminate, hiring an epileptic to drive a company vehicle is highly discouraged. Many employers also hesitate to hire people with "certifiable disabilities" because they don't understand (or want to... "fuckin retards" as I've heard) or don't want to bother with allowances for incompetent employees.
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