The Biden Administration (No Lago)

[Kaelik]

Aside from how extremely dumb the "disinfo" board even is, apparently because Biden's last nominee sang songs about fucking harry potter she is out of the running, and instead Biden has appointed a Bush lackey.

Nothing more emblematic of the current democratic party then creating a censorship board and then putting a 2000s era republican in charge of censoring people who oppose republicans.

[The Adventurer's Almanac]

I knew they would just get somebody less embarrassing to disseminate government-approved information instead of rightly canning the idea. I don't want to pay taxes so some dweeb can comb Twitter for QAnon shit or whatever. Then again, taxes aren't really an "opt-in" sort of thing.

[Thaluikhain]

I knew they would just get somebody less embarrassing to disseminate government-approved information instead of rightly canning the idea. I don't want to pay taxes so some dweeb can comb Twitter for QAnon shit or whatever. Then again, taxes aren't really an "opt-in" sort of thing.

In practice, no, but at least in theory, there's an awful lot of people not being represented.

[The Adventurer's Almanac]

There's a lot of people not being represented in practice. Most people, in fact.

[Thaluikhain]

I meant that there's lots of people not being represented, and in theory there's something about not being represented leading to taxes being optional which doesn't really apply in practice.

[Zaranthan]

IIRC, that's the excuse for religious organizations being tax exempt. On top of the fact that they're supposed to be legitimate charities in their own right, they're not supposed to have representation in the government. And, well,



Of course, nothing prohibits any individual member of a church from donating their tithes wages to any politician they choose. Because the right must always have its cake and eat ours, too.

What's that? Puerto Rico? Never heard of 'em.

[Stahlseele]

That is the Problem with the MiniTru and your 2 Party System and Censorship . .
Once you introduce those things and rules, it is only a matter of tick tack untill the people you created those rules for are in power and get to use them against you . .

[The Adventurer's Almanac]

What's that? Puerto Rico? Never heard of 'em.

A friend of mine's Puerto Rican. We don't talk about it much, but as I understand it the situation is basically "we pay taxes to America for protection money but not to be the 51st state". How inaccurate is that?

[MGuy]

That is the Problem with the MiniTru and your 2 Party System and Censorship . .
Once you introduce those things and rules, it is only a matter of tick tack untill the people you created those rules for are in power and get to use them against you . .

This is not the profound statement you think it is. You are definitely not familiar with how political censorship has been carried out in this country over the years and I'm really sure to make this statement you're not familiar with what parties that censorship is almost always used against.

[Kaelik]

That is the Problem with the MiniTru and your 2 Party System and Censorship . .
Once you introduce those things and rules, it is only a matter of tick tack untill the people you created those rules for are in power and get to use them against you . .

This is not the profound statement you think it is. You are definitely not familiar with how political censorship has been carried out in this country over the years and I'm really sure to make this statement you're not familiar with what parties that censorship is almost always used against.

Indeed literally the example right now is that democrats created a censorship office and then just PUT A BUSH HACK IN CHARGE. So even right now, when the democrats are in charge, the censorship office is going to be used to censor democrats.

But yes, the US has the most robust media control system in existence that completely deprives like 90% of the populace of even the faintest clue what is going on in politics at all. The Ministry of Disinformation is a dumb idea, but by no means is it going to sweep in a wave of censorship that will surely make democrats regret interfering with the existing system of corporate propaganda.

[Thaluikhain]

IIRC, that's the excuse for religious organizations being tax exempt. On top of the fact that they're supposed to be legitimate charities in their own right, they're not supposed to have representation in the government.

Huh, really? I'd never heard that, though I don't remember any other reason given for tax exemptions for churches beyond nominal charity works.

[Zaranthan]

Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.

Bold for emphasis. Being a religious organization is a separate qualifier from being a charitable one. Either is sufficient, most churches are both, but they don't HAVE to be. Hence why those shitheels on TV get away with owning mansions and yachts.

[Kaelik]

Joe Biden just wants everyone to shut up and sit down and stop talking about the filibuster so he can negotiate a bipartisan gun control bill with his rational republican friends Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn.

Remember that some people genuinely thought that this guy being president would be just as good as anyone else running because all democrats are indistinguishable.

[Kaelik]

Biden just wants to let everyone know that he supports nothing more then fascism and that if the Kochs spend a couple billion dollars fucking you, then that means you are the bad guy and the Kochs are clearly the good guy.

Loving have the democratic president take a break from never talking about climate change or abortion being overturned to give a speech about how he loves fascism.

[Omegonthesane]

Is this referring to something from the 2022 Summit for the Americas which didn't invite a third of the Americas and got snubbed by another third for that?

[Kaelik]

Is this referring to something from the 2022 Summit for the Americas which didn't invite a third of the Americas and got snubbed by another third for that?

LMAO,

No actually, I was referring to him showing up to give a speech about how Chesea Boudin losing a recall election was good because we need to give more cops more money so they can continue to go on strike whenever you try to prosecute white collar crime.

But yes, he also said "Fascism good, leftism bad" in South america, like the US always does especially Joe Biden who loves coups.

[Kaelik]

Biden and the dccc supported a centrist in his congressional primary but now he's saying "maybe I'll endorse the independent "centrist" over the democrat for governor" because every day is "primaries only incur an obligation to leftists when they lose."

[Kaelik]

The Biden admin wakes up every day and chooses to argue that you have no constitutional rights.

During oral argument, Biden admin lawyer Vivek Suri argued: “It isn’t a substantive right to receive the Miranda warnings themselves. A police officer who fails to provide the Miranda warnings accordingly himself doesn’t violate the constitutional right.”

https://lawandcrime.com/supreme-court/s ... onfession/

[Kaelik]

In addition to beung terrible and opposing abortion rights and spending the day after roe was overturned announcing he would veto any law to get roe back, Joe biden also really fucking wants democrats to lose the midterms, which is why he's trying as hard as possible to tell voters "please stop being mad at Republicans for overturning roe. Instead please be mad at me for inflation. Focus on what is important! How mad you are about inflation!"

It's almost like the neoliberal brain broken party leaders are not just vad people, but also bad at politics.

[MGuy]

But don't you see? Biden can't do anything because [insert rotating villain(s) here] just won't let them do anything! You might think surely there are nobs and levers a whole party can tweak and pull to whip the votes they need with all these experienced leaders in place and a practical majority in Congress but all those resources are being taken up not doing that and instead opposing more progressive candidates at every opportunity. We have to have some pro life Dems to keep things representative.

[Kaelik]

But don't you see? Biden can't do anything because [insert rotating villain(s) here] just won't let them do anything! You might think surely there are nobs and levers a whole party can tweak and pull to whip the votes they need with all these experienced leaders in place and a practical majority in Congress but all those resources are being taken up not doing that and instead opposing more progressive candidates at every opportunity. We have to have some pro life Dems to keep things representative.

I mean the executive has a lot of levers, including but not limited to the bully pulpit, which is why the day after Roe was overturned Joe Biden publicly commented that he opposes any attempt to pack the court. Because Biden needs to use his levers to make sure Roe stays overturned.

[MGuy]

But don't you see? They are doing outreach! Biden has not only acknowledged that there is a problem but also that we (meaning someone other than him) should do something about these problems. Also he doesn't want you to be too pushy about it and you should know there are good Republicans!

[PseudoStupidity]

The solution is obviously to vote for Joe Biden again so Joe Biden can do the things Joe Biden is saying that Joe Biden will not do. This is a reference to Biden complaining about how lots of Democrats don't want him to run a second time, because Biden is the oldest baby alive.

In response to the current...everything: The Democrats keep making it very hard to vote for Democrats, given how fucking useless they are. At least we're still getting loads of weapons over to Ukraine and doing the fucking Jan 6th committee that will see nobody important get punished instead of anything useful at all. Well, aside from empowering our fascist cops and immigration enforcement dickheads to continue oppressing minorities. SCOTUS is making sure we don't skip a beat, and the Dems are being sure to give them even more money to abuse their newfound powers.

[Zaranthan]

So, I've heard that the governor of New Mexico has ordered her people not to cooperate with law enforcement from Texas, et al on investigations into abortions performed on NM soil. I know extradition is baked into the constitution, but do states have the power to simply refuse to serve subpoenas and whatnot?

[PseudoStupidity]

My governor (MA here) has also announced that the state government is forbidden from helping anyone seeking to punish people who got an abortion. I believe states are required to let the feds take people out of their states, but the state has no obligation to help the feds locate or extradite the people they want. It's like "sanctuary cities" where the local government refused to help ICE. ICE could still operate, but without the help of local authorities it's really fucking hard to enforce the law.

Good on all states that have announced their refusal to comply; I hope they all stand strong in refusing it even if the Rs get in power and try to use the threat of force to punish people for getting abortions.