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hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:50 pm

K wrote:
tussock wrote:Uh, no, the medieval conservativism was that the way of the world was laid out by God, and that talk of changing anything at all was just the work of the Devil.

US conservatives have held all sorts of opinions, but generally that rich men's business is good business and the mass of poor people needed to do all the real work for them are the only existential threat to society of note. The idea that money should trickle down at all was just "Communism" for most of the 20th century, and thus bad.

Trickle-down is the prerogative term applied by opponents of neoliberalism, starting in the late 70's, where bogus supply-side theories are modified from "low taxes in general help everyone" to even more bogus "low taxes for rich people help everyone".

Though I guess if you're young and don't ever read history, that is "always".
Perhaps you are unaware of the prosperity gospel? Modern and medieval conservationism have a lot in common.

Like Jesus, no bad idea is allowed to die and must be resurrected.

Prosperity Gospel wasn't a medieval belief. It was invented in 19th century America.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:48 am

I think what K means is that the Prosperity Gospel is basically medieval theology resurrected.

tussock · Post by **tussock** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:19 am

The new Australian PM is a follower of it, where poverty is a moral failing, minorities being poor shows you how they're all cursed by God for being hopeless sinners, and everything CEOs do is obviously saintly, like raiding company pension schemes and defrauding stockholders.

As they say in the US, "but insider trading doesn't even hurt anyone", except, you know, the sinners who God had buy the stocks off you just before they crashed. It's a world free of sin for the economic victor, an extremely amoral religion.

But like, they're still actors, they still have agency and can do things and their actions matter. They believe the poor fail to act appropriately, that is why they are poor.

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But the high medieval view, way worse. Total Nihilists. Poverty wasn't a moral failure, it was just God's plan for those people. Trying to change that was probably the Devil talking.

Medicine doesn't even work because God either wants to take you or doesn't. Dunking is where if you're innocent, God will save you somehow, but you drowned so you were guilty. Everyone drowned, maybe because God would save them before the dunking chair, who knows, God is a mystery. Torture and disfigurement and horrific executions were the norm, and considered a display of the guilt of the person suffering them because God did not save them. The worse the punishment, the more obvious it was that God would save an innocent person from it.

They weren't kidding at all. All the surviving texts show they were dead serious about being complete Nihilists and believing there were mysterious rules that no one could know (that were also all written in the bible somehow) that dictated everything that would happen no matter what you tried to do. Bad things happened to good people because God was sort of a dick, but that's God, and you worship him or you burn in Hell forever, folk shouldn't stress about being poor because most rich folk will burn in Hell, just is.

Iduno · Post by **Iduno** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:45 pm

tussock wrote:They weren't kidding at all. All the surviving texts show they were dead serious about being complete Nihilists and believing there were mysterious rules that no one could know (that were also all written in the bible somehow) that dictated everything that would happen no matter what you tried to do. Bad things happened to good people because God was sort of a dick, but that's God, and you worship him or you burn in Hell forever, folk shouldn't stress about being poor because most rich folk will burn in Hell, just is.

Have you read the bible or head a preacher? The Christian God is an asshole, and followers are still encouraged to behave like this. The insane death cult portions of Christianity are the least terrible things about it.

Not surprisingly, Plato's writings about what type of religion (monotheistic religion where none of God's actions are considered bad) would be best at controlling people appear to have been used as a blueprint. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, because magical sky fairy is real, but...

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:08 pm

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:32 pm

If you're not familiar, QAnon is the insane conspiracy theory cobbled together as the alternative to the plain fact that Drumpf is a traitor. The people behind QAnon released their conspiracy map and, man, it's much more insane than I would have expected.

(Spoilered for bigness, crazy.)

In retrospect, I guess it has to get bigger/insaner every time Mango Mussolini says a new thing, from which perspective it isn't that surprising.

nockermensch · Post by **nockermensch** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:36 pm

angelfromanotherpin wrote:If you're not familiar, QAnon is the insane conspiracy theory cobbled together as the alternative to the plain fact that Drumpf is a traitor. The people behind QAnon released their conspiracy map and, man, it's much more insane than I would have expected.

(Spoilered for bigness, crazy.)

In retrospect, I guess it has to get bigger/insaner every time Mango Mussolini says a new thing, from which perspective it isn't that surprising.

This qualifies as outsider art at very least. My first instinct was to zoom out to check if the color globs formed Pepe, the Daily Dose or yet another 4chan inner joke.

Hadanelith · Post by **Hadanelith** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:07 am

That sure is...something. I checked out almost immediately, but I gotta wonder, wtf are they talking about with 'Swiss Pharaohs'?

hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:24 am

Hadanelith wrote:That sure is...something. I checked out almost immediately, but I gotta wonder, wtf are they talking about with 'Swiss Pharaohs'?

Y chromosome haplogroup R1b1a2 is very common in Western Europe, especially Switzerland, where about half the men have it.

Genetic testing on King Tut's remains show that he was also haplogroup R1b1a2. Idiots take this to mean that half of Swiss males are related to the Pharaohs. Conspiracy theorists take this to mean that half of all Swiss men are the secret rulers of the world.

Here's an example, if you want to break your brain.

http://co-creatingournewearth.blogspot. ... s-nwo.html

Hadanelith · Post by **Hadanelith** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:21 pm

I wasn't expecting an actual answer, so thank you. Also...wut. That...I...*brain shatters*

Right, let's NOT pay attention to the absolute nutjobs on the internet. Moving on.

tussock · Post by **tussock** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:21 pm

Idiots take this to mean that half of Swiss males are related to the Pharaohs.

The funny thing is, everyone's related to everyone if you go back far enough, and everyone now is totally related to the Pharaohs of Egypt because that is more than far enough.

I mean, we have actual stories of people who were related to the Pharaohs spreading around the world and inter-marrying with local populations while maintaining their ancient link to that relationship, and had done that by 1500 years ago and so we are certainly all their descendants by now. You don't even need that far back, almost everyone is also descended from Mohammed, has to be.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/0 ... cist-says/

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:37 pm

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Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:35 am

My... my dick is confused.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:55 am

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:24 am

Shrapnel wrote:My... my dick is confused.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:26 pm

Good old Sailor Moon Cardians

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Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:57 pm

Darth Rabbitt wrote:

I want to kiss that.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:17 pm

Now my soul is confused...

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:35 am

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