I think that having The Last Jedi on Netflix is really dangerous. I keep finding fuck-ups in the narrative.
For example, after Ghost-Yoda's whole fucking speech on how the Jedi teachings in the books kinda suck and that Luke should abandon them, and then he uses lightning to set the books on fire to highlight the point, we get to see at one of the end scenes shows that the books are in a drawer that might be Rey's room. Or not.
Why do that? Is the movie really just a mishmash of different versions of the script and the editor just put in stuff that looked cool?
Maybe the cutting makes my take on it less feasible, but I took it as a simple revelation that Rey just outright stole that shit before leaving. She knew she wasn't getting any more meaningful education out of the asshole Jedi has-been and didn't care about burning the bridge with him to get her hands on some primary source documents.
Yoda may have been deliberately covering for Rey by bilking Luke with some zen bullshit about about material detachment, knowing full well he wasn't actually destroying anything of material value. Nice.
The point is that movies and shit express themes.
So when Yoda says all that shit, and it's portrayed as the wise words of an elder that helps resolve Luke's conflict, it sort of undermines the whole "this is the theme" thing to then show that Rey stole the stuff earlier as if that's important, because now it's saying that Rey learning from the shit we just learned was worthless is worthwhile.
hyzmarca wrote:Anyway, it's been a while since I actually read Bliss Stage, but if I remember correctly sex is probably the worst way to level up your relationship,
I don't see any downsides to using sex in the rules. A given pair of characters need to have sex to get to the highest level of relationship, unless they're related by blood. (Blood relatives get +1 intimacy to their relationship, so they don't need to commit incest to max it out. The book specifically points out that there's no reward for incest...unless your family member is adopted, I guess.)
I would actually like to see a game in which the PCs' powers are derived from relationships in some way, but preferably in a less creepy form than Bliss Stage.
Sex is necessary to reach 5 with non-relatives, but not sufficient. This much is clear. Meaningless sex doesn't actually provide any relationship benefit, the foundations have to be there, as well.
The roleplay heavy nature of interludes and GM-may-I nature of their results makes it very very easy for ill-considered use of one's genitalia to start a cascading spiral of trust breaks and crash multiple relationships.
There's a reason why harem anime protagonists never have sex with anyone. It complicates things.
I think things like Bliss Stage or Monster Hearts or whatever other games out there highlight teenagers fucking are meant less as titillation and more as group therapy.
A lot of teens get into messy emotionally fraught physical relationships, but because of the legality and ethics surrounding depictions of underage sex it's a place not a lot of media wants to go. The closest you get are the high school dramas where everyone is played by 25 year olds and no one acts like an actual human being.
So people who have some stuff they want to work through and not a lot of spaces to do it turn to or write games about messy teenage relationships. I'm sure there are some people who play because they get off on the idea of sixteen year olds banging, but in my experience the motive is usually closer to "I was once sixteen and I once banged someone I probably shouldn't have, and I still have a lot of feelings about that I never really processed, and actual therapy is expensive."
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Twitter historians have been mauling it for a week or so. It's, yeah, the current nazi spam is that democrats were the racist party in the past, proving they are the racist party now, and anyone calling Trump racist is thus the actual racist. Movie support because Trump pardoned D'Souza for his long list of convictions.
It's garbage memes to prevent people hearing criticism of dear leader, and a worm who got himself out of prison by pandering. At a theatre near you, with botnets upvoting.
PC, SJW, anti-fascist, not being a dick, or working on it, he/him.
Anyone else seen Disenchantment on Netflix? New show by the Simpsons people, reminding you that Simpsons hasn't been entertaining in over a decade.
It's a pretty cool fantasy setting, with some moderately interesting characters, then nothing happens. They just hang out mostly in the city.
The show isn't entertaining in any way. It's not even un-funny jokes that grate on you like Family Guy, it's like they forgot to add plot and jokes at all. The good news is you won't have any reason to stick around long enough to get to the transphobic parts.
I noped out about halfway through the second episode because by far the most entertaining characters were King DGAF and his Lovecraftian second wife, but for some reason I was stuck following teenage rebellion girl and the Least Transgressive Demon.
I liked it, it was entertaining, even if not particularly innovative.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
Iduno wrote:Anyone else seen Disenchantment on Netflix? New show by the Simpsons people, reminding you that Simpsons hasn't been entertaining in over a decade.
It's a pretty cool fantasy setting, with some moderately interesting characters, then nothing happens. They just hang out mostly in the city.
The show isn't entertaining in any way. It's not even un-funny jokes that grate on you like Family Guy, it's like they forgot to add plot and jokes at all. The good news is you won't have any reason to stick around long enough to get to the transphobic parts.
I found it entertaining. It's not Futurama by any means but I did like the show. As far as the transphobic parts, what exactly happens? Most things are transphobic in some way, I want to know if it's transphobic to people going through second puberty x100, transphobic to people pretending to be trans for asspats, or transphobic to actual trans people? The third would be not something I appreciate, the first might be actually offensive, if it's the second I'm going to start quoting it as a shit test for people that want to hang out with me.
In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
Count Arioch the 28th wrote: transphobic to people pretending to be trans for asspats
I'm fairly sure most trans people would find this statement transphobic, because the whole idea of other people's sincerely claimed gender identity being a fair target for skepticism raises the sceptre of their own expressed identity potentially being subject to debate or cross examination. Even if someone does later decide they weren't trans after all, that's detransitioning, which is it's own thing which also has to be respected.
Edit: Not that I'm being one of those pathetic wankers that gets outraged on some entirely hypothetical third parties behalf, I'm not mad at you and don't have a dog in this fight.
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SlyJohnny wrote:
Edit: Not that I'm being one of those pathetic wankers that gets outraged on some entirely hypothetical third parties behalf, I'm not mad at you and don't have a dog in this fight.
Criticism taken in the spirit in which it was intended. There's a divide in the tumblr trans community between trans that have gender dysphoria and wish to transition, and trans that believe gender dysphoria is transphobic because it implies gender is not just a social construct, and "passing" is inherently wrong. As is the case with vocal tumblr groups they tend to not like each other. I believe gender dysphoria is a real thing, and when someone with a full beard dressed in men's clothes demands to be called a woman I tend to not take anything else they say seriously (at one point the person running the largest Poly group on Facebook was one such person. Not sure what happened, I know they lost a lot of members very quickly).
EDIT: But yeah, my only concern is being misunderstood. If anyone still thinks I'm transphobic then you're entitled to your opinion and I won't argue.
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In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
Iduno wrote:Anyone else seen Disenchantment on Netflix? New show by the Simpsons people, reminding you that Simpsons hasn't been entertaining in over a decade.
It's a pretty cool fantasy setting, with some moderately interesting characters, then nothing happens. They just hang out mostly in the city.
The show isn't entertaining in any way. It's not even un-funny jokes that grate on you like Family Guy, it's like they forgot to add plot and jokes at all. The good news is you won't have any reason to stick around long enough to get to the transphobic parts.
I watched the first episode and didn't feel much pull to watch more. I wonder if part of the appeal is supposed to be lots of in-jokes? Like, I saw a wall hanging with a squid on it in one scene, and I thought "is that an homage to Zoidberg?". Then the scene where it's said "whores rouge, ladies leech" is maybe a callback to Simpsons?
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Koumei: and if I wanted that, I'd take some mescaline and run into the park after watching a documentary about wasps. PhoneLobster: DM : Mr Monkey doesn't like it. Eldritch : Mr Monkey can do what he is god damn told. MGuy: The point is to normalize 'my' point of view. How the fuck do you think civil rights occurred? You think things got this way because people sat down and fucking waited for public opinion to change?
Kaelik wrote:Boy I sure do love watching Count explain that a bunch of trans people aren't really trans. This is my favorite thing to see every day.
That's an exaggeration. Sometimes it's misogyny or making fun of mentally handicapped people. Or whining about how his life is a shitshow, and not realizing his personality is the reason.
I'd feel bad about complaining, but it fits the thread (I do come to the Gaming Den for entertainment).
You sound like a girl who is retarded. You're almost as obnoxious as that guy who punched me in my freakishly oversized dick 15 times just because I pointed out his mother was a whore.
In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
I doubt the veracity of that claim, Count. Not the dick-size part, but the guy hitting you there 15 times. Usually the number of times you nut-punch a dude for calling your mother a whore is eleven. Are you sure you counted correctly?
Is this wretched demi-bee
Half asleep upon my knee
Some freak from a menagerie?
No! It's Eric, the half a bee
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:There's a divide in the tumblr trans community between trans that have gender dysphoria and wish to transition, and trans that believe gender dysphoria is transphobic because it implies gender is not just a social construct, and "passing" is inherently wrong. As is the case with vocal tumblr groups they tend to not like each other. I believe gender dysphoria is a real thing, and when someone with a full beard dressed in men's clothes demands to be called a woman I tend to not take anything else they say seriously (at one point the person running the largest Poly group on Facebook was one such person. Not sure what happened, I know they lost a lot of members very quickly).
I'm acquainted with a bearded guy who prances around in booty shorts, long socks and a corset, plus an ugly fedora. He seems just as cringe inducingly sincere about it as any other trans or genderfluid person I've encountered. Is he or she (or whatever pronoun they use right now) part of the second group, or the first?
I don't know, if there really are a legion of people who are insincerely assuming that identity solely for internet kudos than I guess I'll take your word for it, but it seems simplistic to be grading people on how much effort they spend on passing as one gender exclusively
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Impossible to tell without knowing more about the person. I've known a lot of cisgendered people who liked to mess with the gender binary but did not consider themselves trans in any way (in fact, accusing men of being trans for the slightest noncompliance with the gender binary is toxic masculinity in a nutshell). Does he have an actual gender dysphoria diagnosis? (self-DX absolutely does not count).
In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
