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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I just wanna say that the thing about TLJ that struck me was that the called Not Hoth "the mineral planet," which besides being a dumb descriptor made me realize that all the single biome planets in Star Wars are known as "X Planet".

Tatooine - the Desert Planet

Hoth - The Ice Planet

Kashyyk - The Jungle Planet

Bajor - The Pretty Planet

Coruscant - the Boring Politics Planet

I mean, whats up with that?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bajor was from Star Trek, was that part of the joke?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I only remember Hoth being called 'the remote planet.'
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Dagobah is the swamp planet. And the forest-moon of Endor. Yeah - it's a thing in Star Wars and it's a stupid thing. But if each planet has a variety of terrains then you wouldn't need to go to a different planet everytime you go somewhere - it's basically a cheap way of making the galaxy feel bigger but it can also backfire.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just got back from finally seeing TLJ...
I don't think I've been this disappointed in a Star Wars movie since Phantom Menace. This movie was *awful*, both as a Star Wars movie and just as a film.

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This film is structurally a mess and thematically a disaster. I rate it way worse than TFA, worse than Episodes II and III. I honestly can't decide if I dislike this more than the Phantom Menace. If you're a Star Wars fan, this movie doesn't want you to like it, and if you're not...then why would you start with Episode EIGHT?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Then that writer should be sacked for putting his political agenda into a disney movie like that.


Disney has always been political. Back in the day, the government paid them to be.

https://listverse.com/2017/02/05/10-disney-propaganda-cartoons-from-world-war-ii/
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I found it entertaining so long as I didn't think about a damned thing.

It does seem that TFA and TLJ suffer from missed opportunities and lackluster writing. I don't know how they cannot afford better writers.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Omegonthesane wrote:
Bajor was from Star Trek, was that part of the joke?


'Twas. Would it be a sin to say I'm a big fan DS9?

angelfromanotherpin wrote:
I only remember Hoth being called 'the remote planet.'


Technically, it's referred to as "remote ice world of Hoth" in Empire. Which is close enough. I think it's referred to as an "ice planet" in some secondary media, like video games and such.

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Dagobah is the swamp planet. And the forest-moon of Endor. Yeah - it's a thing in Star Wars and it's a stupid thing. But if each planet has a variety of terrains then you wouldn't need to go to a different planet everytime you go somewhere - it's basically a cheap way of making the galaxy feel bigger but it can also backfire.


You would think, that after 30+ years, they'd have found a better way of expanding the setting. Guess it's just so entrenched in the Star Wars formula that it won't be changing anytime soon...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Star Wars is fantasy. The only rules it has to obey are the ones it establishes for itself. Introducing multi-biome planets to Star Wars only raises the question of why there aren't more.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

erik wrote:
I found it entertaining so long as I didn't think about a damned thing.

It does seem that TFA and TLJ suffer from missed opportunities and lackluster writing. I don't know how they cannot afford better writers.



I suspect that the writers have a laundry list of workshopped requirements that included such things as too many fan-service characters, the requirement to do scenes in the best concept art they commissioned, narratively map onto 4/5/6, and the requirement to actively phase out all the old actors.

Its the mad-lib of screenwriting.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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This movie is fractally nonsensical.

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