hyzmarca wrote:I also never said that people should spend combat-minigame resources on the kingdom-management minigame.
Why do I somehow think this is a goal post shift right there... hm...
So let's forget for now you are directly arguing against the position that
things you spend character resources on you know
should contribute to your character power. Lets pretend you are in your own little world arguing with yourself...
hyzmarca wrote: I'm pretty sure "because he likes to fuck" is a legitimate answer to why anyone sinks money into a harem of concubines.
Hm. "Likes to fuck" so
combat resource down the drain.
hyzmarca wrote:[re: sex vs magic item of your choice] I can say with certainty that it is a much better choice than a +1 sword.
Not only are you directly refusing a combat option to get in character sex instead... the magic item of your choice is apparently a +1 sword...
hyzmarca wrote:every time I've done actual kingdom management roleplay with actual people the focus has always bee on citizen welfare first, with military might coming in second. Because the sort of people who want to build kingdoms are generally the sort of people who want to build kingdoms that are nice to live in, rather than blighted totalitarian conquest machines.
Well, that's pretty fucking damning right there. Players will invest in citizen welfare,
explicitly at the cost of combat effectiveness, not because it provides any meaningful mechanical benefit EVEN in the poorly affixed strategy layer, but because they are just a nice sort of person. That seems pretty fucking damning for your "I never said that!" claim.
Hey. I wonder if you said something directly in the same post as your denial that you are arguing directly and explicitly in favor of throwing generic character resources right down the toilet in return for literally nothing with luxury facilities...
Because a player whose character concept is Wise Philosopher King is going to masturbate to different things to one whose character concept is Psychopathic Mass Murderer.
Hm. You know that your biggest single character resource is? YOUR VERY CHARACTER CONCEPT ITSELF. And YOU explicitly state it as a choice between Psychotic Mass Murderer and Wise Philosopher king, NOT an option of both at once with alternative king variants and alternative murderer variants. YOU just conceptualize it as one OR the other and by extension one IN EXCHANGE for the other.
But hey can we get something a bit more direct back in the older posts?
Likewise, if you have a strong basket weaving mini-game, then there are very good reasons to invest character resources into basket-weaving skills
Oh hey LOOK generic character resources thrown the fuck away into basket weaving. The ONLY given reason "because it was there!".
You want to fucking pretend "oh no wait I was talking about special segregated basket weaving resources only ALL ALONG (but never mentioned that)", and you know we could start trying to explain to you in slow large words why a completely segregated basket weaving minigame STILL needs to feed back to the main game in some way or else it is shit even if it has segregated basket weaving only character resources.
But no, with goal post shifting like that what is the fucking point of even talking to you? You want to shift the goal post you can fucking correct yourself and admit you were wrong first, because you aren't worth talking to otherwise.
Mind you... since in your LAST post during your eagerness to strawman the very concept of any and all mechanically rewarding luxury facilities in player owned castles as +20 vaginas of junk... YOU COULDN'T EVEN HOLD A CONSISTENT POSITION ON WHETHER YOU LIKED THE IDEA OF YOUR OWN +20 STRAWMAN VAGINA OR NOT FOR A SINGLE FUCKING OPENING PARAGRAPH.
So hell, before you even stop shifting goal posts and denying your own prior position. FIRST, get your fucking head in order. Develop a single opinion on this topic you can express for more than three sentences without either changing your mind or shifting your goal posts. THEN maybe we can fucking talk, right now I might as well be interacting with a fucking gibberish generator.