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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Great job Nintendo! Now Alis, Nei and Red Ring Rico next please!


Um... they're not making any more DLC characters for Smash. Bayonetta was the last one.
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Why stop now? I want to be able to fight with all video games characters ever!
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Great job Nintendo! Now Alis, Nei and Red Ring Rico next please!


Um... they're not making any more DLC characters for Smash. Bayonetta was the last one.


There's always the SSB for the next Nintendo console. Each iteration has more characters than the previous.

God bless Iwata in the heavens for having supported this idea from the start.
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I thought you meant for SSB4, but yeah, I suppose there's always hope for Smash 5.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wait, they're only doing 2 DLC characters after the poll? I thought there were going to be 3.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

There are three:

1. Cloud

2. Corrin

3. Bayonetta

Bayonetta was the winner of the poll. The other two were already in development prior to the poll.
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Another Fire Emblem character? Seriously?
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I seriously don't get the hate towards FE characters. It's a great series that deserves it's reps. I, personally, am excited about Corrin's inclusion. (Not as much as I am for Bayonetta, but still...)
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I don't hate the series. I just think the slot could've gone to a number of other characters from different series that would've been way more interesting.
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I seriously don't get the hate towards FE characters. It's a great series that deserves it's reps. I, personally, am excited about Corrin's inclusion. (Not as much as I am for Bayonetta, but still...)


Marth, Roy, Robin, Lucina, and now Corrin. Six characters, almost as many as from Pokemon or Mario.

And they could have put in Geno. Or Lloyd Irving. Shovel Knight. SOMEONE else.
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Shrapnel wrote:
I seriously don't get the hate towards FE characters. It's a great series that deserves it's reps. I, personally, am excited about Corrin's inclusion. (Not as much as I am for Bayonetta, but still...)


There are only so many variations on "guy with a sword who hits things with the sword" that you can actually manage, and Nintendo has proven over and over that they really don't have that many different meaningful characters they can make, and so some people would prefer to see a character with a different moveset instead of minor variations on a moveset they've seen 6 times already.
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Marth, Roy, Robin, Lucina, and now Corrin. Six characters, almost as many as from Pokemon or Mario.


Are you talking about just this game? Because Brawl has Ike.
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Kaelik wrote:
Nintendo has proven over and over that they really don't have that many different meaningful characters they can make, and so some people would prefer to see a character with a different moveset instead of minor variations on a moveset they've seen 6 times already.

Agreed. It's most barefaced with Lucina; she is a literal clone of Marth.

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Are you talking about just this game? Because Brawl has Ike.


SSB4 has Ike as well.

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Marth, Roy, Robin, Lucina, and now Corrin. Six characters, almost as many as from Pokemon or Mario.

Exactly as many as Pokemon (6 characters each; Pokemon has Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Charizard, Lucario, Greninja, and Mewtwo). Second only to Mario. If you count Pokemon from previous games (Pichu, Pokemon Trainer) Pokemon wins though. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that it deserves as much representation as Pokemon, and you can't convince me it deserves more than Zelda.

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And they could have put in Geno. Or Lloyd Irving. Shovel Knight. SOMEONE else.

Exactly.
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Kaelik wrote:
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Marth, Roy, Robin, Lucina, and now Corrin. Six characters, almost as many as from Pokemon or Mario.


Are you talking about just this game? Because Brawl has Ike.


Whoops, somehow forget him even though my count included.
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A Fire Emblem character that uses a spear or axe would be nice.
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Agreed. It's most barefaced with Lucina; she is a literal clone of Marth.


Honestly, that doesn't surprise me, since in the very first game that had Fire Emblem characters, it has Roy and Marth, who were literally exactly the same, except that Marth was bigger and faster, and the damage was tip focused and roy was smaller and slower and mid focused, and therefore literally just the same character but worse in every way.
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Hadn't realized they'd wound up with that many. I mean, it's two character types rather than one because Robin's a Gish rather than a straight sword type, but still.
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Hadn't realized they'd wound up with that many. I mean, it's two character types rather than one because Robin's a Gish rather than a straight sword type, but still.


Ike does play differently from Marth/Lucina/Roy. And hopefully Corrin will have his own thing.

But Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick.
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From the video, Corrin does seem to be a distinct type of melee guy from the others. I could see adding him now if they intended to continue on with the DLC, since his game is out in Japan now and will release in the US soon, but yeah, that's still a bunch.
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I'm disappointed with Cloud. I don't mind the character's inclusion, but rather his implementation. I figured he'd be a gish of some sort (like he was in FFVII), but instead he's just another sword guy a la most of the Fire Emblem guys. I blame Advent Children.
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The reason why FE gets a lot of characters is because FE has been HUGELY popular in the last years. FE Awakening was a massive hit, Fates is coming, and one of the secondary objectives of SSB is marketing Nintendo's characters (hey guys a new FE is coming with Roy) and appeal to nostalgia (hey guys do you remember the first FE with Marth?).

This is, we probably would've never had FE outside of Japan if not for the fact Marth and Roy were included in a SSB game and Nintendo realized "holy crap the foreigners actually like this characters, let's localize this stuff!"

Fire Emblem Fates is upon us, and Corrin is being included in SSB as a "buy my game!" ploy.

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Hector DLC would probably sell pretty well. Bonus points if we can play with the awesome beard FE6 version.

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Holy shit, that guy is fucking insane. Calling people weeabo puppets is the very definition of crazy motherfucker.

Don't get me wrong, I love Shantae. Hell, I voted for her five times. But I'm not gonna go start a twitter war over the fact that she lost.

(Granted, I also really love Bayonetta, but still...)
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