Illusions and Saves

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Lago_AM3P
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Illusions and Saves

Post by Lago_AM3P »

Can you make will saves against illusions that don't have saving throw: will disbelief? Like invisibility, blur, etc.?

If you can or cannot, can someone point me towards a specific piece of rule or FAQ?
Username17
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Re: Illusions and Saves

Post by Username17 »

As per the RAW, yes you can. If it's a Glamer or a Figment, you get a save against it to disbelieve if you physically interact with it or carefully study it (including searching an area it is located in).

So while Silence has no save, you can actually disbelieve it and what exactly happens at that point is completely unclear (Silence definately needs to be an Evocation). Invisibility can be seen through if you make a Will save after physically interacting with it (making the stupid "goes away if you attack" legacy mechanic totally superfluous).

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