"To record an arcane spell in written form, a character uses complex notation that describes the magical forces involved in the spell."
So what is a page on a spellbook? The PHB tells us, it is a description of the magical forces. If you have a description of the magical forces, then you in fact do have a description of the magical forces. There is no magic in the description.
shadzar wrote:yes dumbass, cause even 3.x assumed people played other editions first and foremost and understood what was in them that was NEVER reprinted in newer book. the game assumes you know something about it.
No, it doesn't. You keep saying this, but there is no reason to believe that. Can you point to even a single part of the rules for 3e that incorporates rules printed in different editions? No, because it doesn't exist.
But you know what it does say in the PHB?
PHB wrote: This Player’s Handbook has all the rules players need to create characters, select equipment, and engage in combat with a variety of supernatural and mythical foes.
The Dungeon Master’s Guide, available separately, provides the DM with advice, guidelines, and everything he or she needs to create challenges, adventures, and full-fledged D&D campaigns, including sections on prestige classes, magic items, and character rewards.
The Monster Manual, available separately, contains material that players and DMs alike will find useful. With hundreds of monsters to populate all levels of dungeons, this tome also includes monster creation rules, information on playing monsters as characters, details on monster tactics, and powered-up versions of standard creatures.
Together, these three volumes comprise the rules for the Dungeons & Dragons game.
shadzar wrote:i have read many thread from back to 2003 about the "secret page trick" of filling a spell book with level 1 spells and then using Secret Page to put even a level 7 spell on only one page in the book, but this is some Munchkin bullshit and abuse.
No one cares what you read in 2003, can you try to read what people are saying right now? Because you moron, absolutely no one has said you can use Secret Page to fit an entire 7th level spell on one page (unless you are a Geometer, which is a prestige class that specifically does allow you to fit a 7th level spell on a single page).
shadzar wrote:it would be MORE powerful than 3rd level in order for the "trick" to be viable.
A level 5 spell gives infinite wealth, I'm sure that a level 3 spell giving you possibly up to 1000gp in spells is well within the fucking guidelines of a 3rd level spell.