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[Zinegata]

All of those are scary expensive and you already have a giant man anyway. Why not just take a Celestial Master to ensure magical diversity, early site searching, and a good researcher?

[Korwin]

Updated last post on first page with T'ien Chi mages and Oreiad (probably too expensive).
If I cant get the Warrior Smith, I might choose a Cheap Researcher (if there is still one), like the Mictlan Priest.
I have the pretender points for an Magic3 Scale if I want it...

[FrankTrollman]

You don't get any magic diversity from the Mictlan Priest because you already have Skratti. If you don't get the Warrior Mage, it's time to look at something like the Arcocephalian Mystic or the Caelian Seraph.

Remember that you only have 4 leaders who can have magic paths, and two of them are cap-only. You need a massable research/battle caster.

-Frank

[Korwin]

Mystic is allready taken. Caelean Seraph brings A2 for diversity.
He can fly so the map movement would be great...

[Korwin]

Got to pick the Warrior Smith!

[FrankTrollman]

This makes me want to do a draft that isn't filled with mods whose explicit design goal is to fill up the game with crazy unbalanced bullshit, many of which are easter eggs hidden in giant rambling dm files.

Draft Order would be:

• 1st build-anywhere commander
  
• 2nd build-anywhere commander
  
• Build anywhere non-mage commander (may be priest)
  
• Build anywhere Scout (Commander, Stealthy, no magic paths or priest levels)
  
• 1st Build Anywhere Troop
  
• 2nd Build Anywhere Troop
  
• 3rd Build Anywhere Troop
  
• 4th Build Anywhere Troop
  
• 1st Capital-Only Commander
  
• 2nd Capital-Only Commander
  
• 1st Capital-Only Troop
  
• 2nd Capital-Only Troop
  
• Pretender God (any era)
  
• 1st National Spell
  
• 2nd National Spell
  
• 3rd National Spell
  
• Assign Starting Gems

Starting army would be your second-drafted commander and your scout plus 400 gold worth of your third and fourth drafted national troops. PD from 1-19 would be 20 gold worth of your 3rd and fourth drafted build-anywhere troop led by your 3rd drafted build-anywhere commander. At 20+ you get 40 gold worth of your 1st and 2nd drafted troop and your second-drafted capital only commander.

No other mods. No bullshit "awesomed" version of already viable stuff.

-Frank

[Korwin]

Heh sign me up!

[Mister_Sinister]

Frank - what Age would this be set in? Or is this age-irrespective?
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[Winnah]

Interesting. I'd play a game like that. The only thing I would have to think about would be the national spell choices.

Drawing up the mod as people worked through the draft would be a simple method of putting everything together. You would just need to give new ID's/#copystats on the pretenders and national spells.

Magic sites are also limited to 4 functions each, so every nation would need 1 site for gems and one site for the capital units, minimum.

As for flags, you could just use a default flag shape, then people can pick a colour for their nation as part of the draft or something.

[FrankTrollman]

I would set things Middle Era. As for magic sites, I would start each faction with four magic sites, as that would make it so that their commanders would automatically skip the home province with remote site searching spells on repeat-cast.

And yeah, color-drafting seems reasonable. Players could also draft names for their country:

• Amblis
  
• Carthacia
  
• Etimhara
  
• Huichan
  
• Manditou
  
• Nimtir
  
• Odezd
  
• Sachs
  
• Tsimzan
  
• Ulvolge

-Frank

[Winnah]

Very basic mod template in spoilers.

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#modname "MA : Draft"
#description "Draft template"
#icon ""
#version 0.1
#domversion 3.27

--unit slots 2201-2210 (for pretender copies)
--nation slots 79-88
--site slots 751-790 (national sites)

------PRETENDER COPIES

--- Forge Lord (example)

#newmonster 2201
#copystats 1230
#copyspr 1230
#restrictedgod 79 --79 is the Nation ID for Amblis
#end

------- SPELLS ----------

--example

#newspell
#copyspell "Revive Wailing Lady"
#restricted 79 --79 is the nation ID for Amblis
#end

-------- SITES -----------

---Amblis Example

#newsite 751
#name "Amblis 1"
#path 7 --Path and level determine the site icon. Unimportant.
#level 0
#rarity 5 --5 is a unique ID. This site will typically appear only as a national site.
#gems 6 1 --1 nature gem
#homemon --ID or name of Unit that can be recruited
#homecom --ID or name of commander that can be recruited
#end

#newsite 752
#name "Amblis 2"
#path 7
#level 0
#rarity 5
#end

#newsite 753
#name "Amblis 3"
#path 7
#level 0
#rarity 5
#end

#newsite 753
#name "Amblis 4"
#path 7
#level 0
#rarity 5
#end

-------- NATIONS ---------

--The following section must be completed for every nation

#selectnation 79
#name "Amblis"
#epithet ""
#era 2
#idealcold 0
#brief ""
#descr ""
#summary ""
#flag ""
#templepic 1
#color 0.1 0.2 0.3

---- RECRUITS

#addrecunit --unit ID to follow
#addrecunit
#addrecunit
#addrecunit

---- LEADERS

#addreccom --unit ID to follow
#addreccom
#addreccom
#addreccom

----- STARTSITES

#startsite "Amblis 1"
#startsite "Amblis 2"
#startsite "Amblis 3"
#startsite "Amblis 4"

----- FORTS

#startfort 3 --Fortified city
#swampfort 11 --swamp fort
#farmfort 10 --simple fortress
#forestfort 33 --forest ramparts
#mountainfort 36 --hillfort
#defaultfort 39 --fortification

------- PROVINCE DEFENCE

--Sets the units to be used in province defense.

#defcom1 --unit ID to follow
#defcom2
#defunit1
#defunit1b
#defunit2
#defunit2b

--Sets how many of the units to appear per 10 points.

#defmult1 --number to follow
#defmult1b
#defmult2
#defmult2b


------- STARTING UNITS

#startcom --unit ID's here
#startscout
#startunittype1
#startunitnbrs1
#startunittype2
#startunitnbrs2
#end

[Korwin]

This needs an new thread, we also need more players.

Edit: for the player issue, I could crosspost it on awful.

[Korwin]

So back to topic. The second capital commander is due soon.
Currently neither the Niefel Jarl or Ba'al are taken, i'm really torn between the two.
(my first choice was Celestial Master)

Edit: this Commander will get into 20+ PD!

[FrankTrollman]

The Ba'al gives you F3S3E3B2. The Niefeljarl gives you W4D3A1.

You already have W3B3D1N1 from the Skratti and F1E2A1W1 (with another 50% random, so it's alot better than that) on the Warrior Smith. On a strict numbers game, the Ba'al gives you a lot more magic diversity than the Niefel Jarl does. Niefel Jarls are better in combat though.

Edit: you'd much rather have Ba'als in PD, because Niefel Jarls will kill your own PD troops with their cold aura.

-Frank

[Korwin]

Nation is finished:

Name: Trade Union
Epithet: All are big equal, some are bigger more equal.
Pretender: Divine Snake

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Building I: Comisariat: (Ba’al), Fomorian Giant
Building II: Economic Warfare Institute: Celestial Master, Androphag Archer
Gems: 2E, 2D, 2N

Cap Only Commanders: Celestial Master, Ba’al

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Anywhere Commanders: Jotun Skratti, Warrior Smith, Tribal King

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Cap Only Troops: Androphag Archer, Fomorian Giant
Anywhere Troops: Abysian Infantry, Troglodytes, Light Bandar Archer

[Korwin]

Division Zulu's (Late Age, slightly other Draft rules) Mod is finished, for those (like me) who want to play around with it.

[Akula]

It is an EA game, so you should have one more gem in your capitol sites Korwin.

[Korwin]

Yeah noticed that a few minutes ago, upped the nature income by one.

[Korwin]

Bravo Division Mod:

[Korwin]

Division A's mod:

[Korwin]