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In that they're equally contentious topics, I'm guessing.
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Vnonymous wrote:All I can gather from the various arguments is that women are centaurs.

Personally I'm in favour of lifting the ban and simply creating a few "free for all" threads in MPSIMS that are unmoderated save for posts/chains of posts that actually disrupt the workings of the forums.

Of course, in order to stop this from spilling into the rest of the forums you'd want to have some sort of forced anonymity thing for those threads...

Maybe a forum where the username field is invisible to people who aren't moderators, for all of those heated discussions?
People have pointed out reasoning against this before.

a) You can identify people by their literary voice, so invisible usernames doesn't help all that much

b) One of the biggest problems is people getting pissed. No usernames won't help with that.

c) That means more work...

d) People like Frank totally put their name in every post they make. You cannot stop people from advertising their name just to be an asshat.
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Vnonymous wrote: Of course, in order to stop this from spilling into the rest of the forums you'd want to have some sort of forced anonymity thing for those threads...

Maybe a forum where the username field is invisible to people who aren't moderators, for all of those heated discussions?
Dude, have you been on /b/ or /r9k/ lately? That's a terrible idea; especially since as FV pointed out we know how everybody writes. It would do nothing but make more work for no benefit.
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Was the requirement for a politics tag on posts ever firmly decided?
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Post by Draco_Argentum »

Some form of software enforced block on multiposting would probably fix things.

An annoying poster can be ignored. A spammer can't even with ignore. As Elennsar showed once a thread is taken over its rendered useless for everyone else. If we could stop one person from taking a thread over we'd be well out in front.

One of TDG's selling points is the small post rate, it lets you have a say on a topic rather than getting lost in the other 300 posts today.

A post frequency limit might even force people to write better posts since it would turn a post into a limited resource that you wouldn't want to waste on an ill thought out reply that won't convince anyone.
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Draco_Argentum wrote:Some form of software enforced block on multiposting would probably fix things.

An annoying poster can be ignored. A spammer can't even with ignore. As Elennsar showed once a thread is taken over its rendered useless for everyone else. If we could stop one person from taking a thread over we'd be well out in front.

One of TDG's selling points is the small post rate, it lets you have a say on a topic rather than getting lost in the other 300 posts today.

A post frequency limit might even force people to write better posts since it would turn a post into a limited resource that you wouldn't want to waste on an ill thought out reply that won't convince anyone.
I don't think a post frequency limit is a good idea.

It's seems impossible to balance it so that one person posting no where else can't take over a thread, but that people who post in multiple forums under multiple discussions all at the same time (like, on their lunch break) wouldn't be hampered.

Seems better to just say "Fuck you, you are the last post in this thread, so you can't post, go edit your last post."
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I kind of like the idea of blocking double posts, partly because every one's internet connection goes bad from time-to-time and partly because it will cut down on spamming. But to reduce spam we'd have to punish sock-puppeting, I have no problem with that, but is that something the community would agree to?
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Actually, problem with double post blocks.

All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.

Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.

Though frankly, I'm not terribly upset about how it is now.
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Kaelik wrote:Actually, problem with double post blocks.

All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.

Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.
I was thinking the same thing.
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ubernoob wrote:
Kaelik wrote:Actually, problem with double post blocks.

All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.

Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.
I was thinking the same thing.
Alternately, if it's easy to program it that way, the double-post blocker might check which subforum you're in, and allow double-posts in IMOI (possibly only for the original poster).
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IGTN wrote:
ubernoob wrote:
Kaelik wrote:Actually, problem with double post blocks.

All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.

Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.
I was thinking the same thing.
Alternately, if it's easy to program it that way, the double-post blocker might check which subforum you're in, and allow double-posts in IMOI (possibly only for the original poster).
Well, the Tomes, along with for example Tiers and Levels, are in HO
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The doubleposting only occurs due to post length limits. If that were raised the problem would go away. I don't think the Den has ever had a problem with super long spam posts.
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Kaelik wrote: Seems better to just say "Fuck you, you are the last post in this thread, so you can't post, go edit your last post."
I like this idea - particularly if it's possible to multipost until the point where someone replies, allowing for things like the Tomes or whatever where several massive posts are put up in a row, but people can't reply individually to four other people in a row in the one thread.
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Petty whine:

Would it please be possible to delete the announcement at the top of the boards? It makes me have to scroll down on the main page.

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Sure.

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Vnonymous wrote: Personally I'm in favour of lifting the ban and simply creating a few "free for all" threads in MPSIMS that are unmoderated save for posts/chains of posts that actually disrupt the workings of the forums.

Of course, in order to stop this from spilling into the rest of the forums you'd want to have some sort of forced anonymity thing for those threads...

Maybe a forum where the username field is invisible to people who aren't moderators, for all of those heated discussions?
I just noticed this post.

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It also wouldn't work because Frank would actually end posts with

-Username17

without even thinking about it.

And, like I explained before, anyone who can read flying monkey fuck and not realize they are reading me is fucking retarded.
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