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"AC0 is basically asking to take the splitting-the-team narrative to the ultimate extreme, "why not just have the characters take turns in a series of loosely connected narratives, ala Pulp Fiction or Short Cuts?"" Dr. Praetor's got the gist of it, but I would make the loosely c...

@Frank, @AncientH: I want to know why the PCs need to be together in a group (coterie or band or party, whatever) within the game. Nevermind the talk about factions and sects and clans, why do the PCs have to team up to go on a mission? Why do they all have to be the story equivalent of the Expendab...

Longes wrote:"nuWW CEO got fired"

If only he had said, "I am stepping down," instead of "It has been agreed I'd leave" then I could post:


So close.

I would have the setting be in the future (like 2100) but avoid cybernetic elements. I personally don't think the whole 'jack-in' brain-machine interfacing / networking thing will ever be possible. We view cybernetic augmentation today like how people viewed flying cars back in the 50s. I think it w...

I'm not sure whether I should be impressed that White Wolf managed to make a business out of selling a setting that falls apart under the slightest scrutiny and shovelware that doubled as thinly veiled fan-fiction... or deeply disappointed.

"Oh, that one is easy. Because if the public knew that vampires existed, then most people would want to be vampires. In exchange for a sunlight allergy and a dietary requirement, you get to live forever plus super powers, that's cool. There's literally no reason why an elderly person, or someo...

"Is it a good idea to have clans to begin with? Couldn't you have different defined types of vampires, and you are likely to be the same as your parent vampire, but you might end up one of the others for some reason? Thus giving players of all sorts of vampires a reason to work together, becau...

PrometheanVigil Said: You're conflating "we need a clan for X concept!" syndrome that VTM collapsed under with what VTR did. The Giovanni would be considered a Bloodline in VTR, under either the Mekhet or Ventrue (in fact, the Sangiovanni are the expy rehash of the Giovanni with a focus o...

"The politics would emerge from the interplay of groups." This^. But we actually need there to be a sufficient number of groups with identifiable goals that overlap and exclude other goals. Having the Sabbat and Camarilla be 'at war' with each other is a terrible idea. Having Clans with n...

There are some pretty obvious bad spots. [...] I wouldn't call this retarded, but I would ask what exactly it is you're trying to accomplish with your take on "a new vampire reboot or w/e." Are you just trying to swap a new clan roster in and otherwise leave the existing assumptions of VT...

"Pretty sure that while as allegory the blood drinking is meant to represent some other social problem, within the text itself vampires are meant to literally drink actual blood. Which of course isn't the same thing as the blood drinking definitely being the actual source of nutrition and not ...

"Removal of blood pools led to a very stupid terminology. For example, certain Tremere rituals require "one Rouse Check's worth of blood", as does ghouling people. But a "Rouse Check" isn't actually a defined quantity of blood, nor is it even definable. You see, you make Ro...

INB4 NuNu WhiteWolf is appealing to the Nazi crowd in order to lure them in and then sell them on the idea that stories about "Jewish world domination" is actually part of the Vampire's Masquerade. "Woah, if we just replace 'Jews' with 'Vampires' and 'Goyem' with 'Kine' then The Proto...

In other news, VTES is also trying to get back in print to coincide with the release of VTM5E. https://www.blackchantry.com/ This bit from their vision statement really struck me: "We are to attract many new players, but any actions taken to further this end will be made with the current player...

@ FrankTrollman : There used to be a site that had the VTM words and IRL etymology for said words. It's down now, but they suggested that Malkavian was from the Latin 'Mal' + 'Cavilla' roughly translating to 'bad-joke'. But is highly dubious and / or utterly coincidental, given your account of Rein-...

Why is 'Law' the opposite of 'Chaos'? Other than Gygax & Co. stealing that alignment system from Michael Moorcock & Co. for D&D, what's the reasoning behind it? Wouldn't 'Order' be a better opposite of 'Chaos'? Can't laws create a system that is either orderly OR chaotic, e.g. the same l...

Question: Are (what if) the wars / battles between the Clans were largely ceremonial? Not strictly 'kill them down to the last man' but more concerned with non-lethally capturing prisoners in order to ransom, get political leverage, and dishonor the opposing clan? The late Renaissance in Europe work...

@PrometheanVigil: I wasn't even talking about individual characters, Christ.

@ Whipstitch : 1. Yes. 2. Yes. This does not exclude no.1. It's already established that vampires can disappear from sight, mind-wipe people, shapeshift, and use magic. I'm a big believer in the 'Game Face' trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GameFace. Also, talking about cosplaying va...

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And VTM Bloodlines (the video game) also does this as well. You're created, your Sire is destroyed, and the rest of the Vampire world, who is present at the time of the local Prince deciding NOT to execute you on the spot (since you were illegally created), collectively shrug and say, "Not my p...

@Thaluikhain: Is there really a difference between vampire criminals and the vampire 1%? XD

@Souran: Yes, the Masquerade should remain a core in-universe concept that the supernaturals live by.

@ CapnTthePirateG The onus is on nuWW to make vampires cool again. They're going to have to tell the stories that bring vampires back into the pop-culture limelight. Vampires and the concept of the Masquerade are great vehicles for telling character dramas, psychological thrillers, horror stories, a...

Obviously all the vampires types should have ways of maintaining the Masquerade, since that's a core conceit of the WoD.

And no, please don't link to or quote FrankTrollman's Anatomy of Failure: Vampire: The Masquerade; or Anatomy of Failure: Vampire: The Requiem. Those threads are great, but at the risk of redundancy, let's discuss what nuWW would have to do to not implode their company (again?)