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Here's another idea from Malcolm Sheppard's blog if you're interested. That a person exerts his will over another is instinct, but how he structures the act is technology, and his justifications? Magic. Therein lie the roots of the Hegemony: a network of Awakened who uphold modernist values – includ...

The fact that Christians don't have a monopoly on these things is exactly why people are repeatedly calling what nWoD did a missed opportunity to go in another direction. I honestly don't even know what your problem is anymore. The beginning and end of your position seems to be that you're offended...

FrankTrollman wrote:But none of those are even a little bit useful for determining what saving throws, skills, and toughness a creature should have.

So I don't use it to determine those things. I already said I prefer the monsters roles approach.

No, we're saying it's a game, so it shouldn't be in the business of proselytizing, But it's not proselytizing. It is, oddly enough, ironic: the authors dress up in token Christian themes what is an incredibly anti-Christian game. I've seen the writers say things like "I cannot accept that a be...

You asked why White Wolf dumping Christian jizz all over everything was insulting and alienating to their audience. We told you. The gaming den may be alienated by this, but every other community I came across were not likewise offended. I've never once seen an Asatru or Hindu player call the mecha...

If you are wondering why that might be totally fucking stupid (and offensive), it is because the vast majority of people alive today (even Christians) do not adhere to an ethical framework which aligns with the seven virtues and seven vices of Catholicism. Do you really think the WoD fanbase as a w...

Do you really need soul types? I don't see how they'd interact with the game much, and it seems like there'd be a lot of overlap with mind types. They don't overlap at all. The mind types are "Int 1-2," "Int 3+," and "No Int." The soul types are "can be raised,&qu...

Yes, that sort of enforced world view is fucking insulting. You're missing the point of the virtue/vice mechanic. It's not meant to be a moral judgement on particular nouns and adjectives. The mechanic is meant to represent selfless and selfish actions, respectively, with some Christian terms for f...

In nWoD you are forced to select a Catholic Heavenly Virtue and Deadly Sin to define your character. This is more offensive and intrusive than if it was simply literally true in the game that the divine creator of the universe had one son by a virgin in Judea. It isn't that the game is telling you ...

That sounds overly complex for the benefits. I think so too. I'm just going to drop the parts about hit dice and use the basic tagging system instead of 3e creature types. Off the top of my head (default is in brackets, you probably wouldn't list it at all): Form - Humanoid, [Other w/ Physiology], ...

Both of these type revisions fall into the same basic trap, which is trying to fuck with 3e's type system at all . The thing is that type system was and is a dead end. There is no reason for Succubi to have comparable numbers of skill points to Howlers or even to Vrocks. Body type just isn't a good...

I found the core rules for apparently legally free as a teenager, read through them, vaguely remembered an interesting setting and facepalmed repeatedly at them shoehorning in Divine Inspiration as a power source at fucking all even if it was only one of a bunch of character options. I don't unders...

I glanced through it, because a game called Witchcraft tickles certain parts of my brain, especially when coupled with late 90s/early 00s Matrix-inspired esoteripunk style. But the "OH. It's Wiccans thinking they're badass," realization at the store made me put it back. I actually read it...

There was a parody game using world of darkness rules called "Senshi: The Merchandising," which had classes based on various 90's magical girl shows (magical warriors, magical knights, magical idol singers, wedding warriors, tuxedo warriors, espers, holy thieves, fairy princesses, card cap...

Seems fine to me, though it might be a bit more complicated then just having 10 different types. IT might work if its in the background math, something that the system assumes only experienced GMS can tweak. I did also find another solution that pared down the types to six based on basic anatomy (n...

I'd suggest Magical Burst, which is basically Puella Magi Madoka Magica writ large. It's in the playtest stage right now, but the author intends to sell the finished product and even wrote a companion novel.

Every time you say something good about WitchCraft, it makes me lose just a little more credence for your ideas, Box. The only good thing to come out of Eden Studios was All Flesh. Trendy Wicca bandwagon stuff is and always was horrible. That's not why I'm interested in it. Mage The Ascension did t...

Basically, the entire Werewolf breeding system is bad. I totally agree. WitchCraft handled this pretty well: lycanthropes were the result of permanent spirit possession caused by an angry spirit's curse. The cursed individual would pass the curse to his descendants and if any of them were killed th...

I can across a revision of the types system for d20 while browsing. The rules are simple: instead of a dozen very specific types, creatures are divided into supertype (living, nonliving, undead), body (organic, mechanical, animated, homogenous, amorphous), mind (mindless, intelligent, artificially i...

Pretty much the entire reason why Garou and Atha-Ur* could not reproduce with their own kind (at least until nWoD 2nd edition) was precisely to prevent this sort of isolationism. The whole conceit of "rage is dangerous" doesn't hold water if you can just isolate yourself from the normals f...

How the hell could you know what I'm doing in practice when I haven't had time or attention to fucking do anything in practice for three days!? You're right, I forgot to make myself clear. I apologize. I'm basing my knowledge only on the premises you posted in the first few pages of the thread. The...

Prak, what makes this different from playing the official world of darkness, classic or new, or any of the heartbreakers? While your intention is to create a spiritual sequel to the world of darkness, that is not what you are doing in practice. Ignoring the stupid white wolf terminology for a moment...

But there are lots of Infernalists of various flavors in World of Darkness and I take it as given that if you were going to do a World of Darkness reboot that you'd end up with a lot of teams who were on Team Demon. And at least all but one of them should be more interesting than killfuck soulshitt...

Not really, no What I suggested is the exact same setup as Demon: The Fallen, except with the Raveners made NPCs and the Lancea Sanctum added as a PC faction. Demon: The Fallen already had the same setup as Vampire: The Masquerade (which was itself ripped off from Nightlife, but no one remembers th...

And if your game is about blowing away intelligent face-eating monsters, that works. WoD, however, posits that you play the intelligent face-eating monsters, and thus the better source material is things like Paradise Lost, Hellboy, and seriously Metalocalypse. I would make a distinction between de...