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You still get a saving throw vs say a fireball or death knell when you're unconscious. Since paralyzed creatures drown or fall down then flying since they become immobile, and since the helpless condition includes the paralyzed condition, how to you figure than an unconscious lump of meat gets a Re...

Oh, please. If you don't want to be pedantic, acknowledge that "You may have a cupcake if you like" in no way forbids someone from having a cupcake they don't want; it merely assumes that's an unlikely result. The point is that you may have a cupcake if you like is not the same thing as y...

So, uhmmm, what is the point?
How does this benefit the game?

Lets put aside the baseless assertion that being unconscious means you take the action to voluntarily lower your saving throw for this piece here. Tell me what part of my logic you disagree with. The game has actions that take no time. They're called free actions, and can sometimes be taken when it...

It's important to note that the decision to voluntarily forgo a saving throw is a conscious decision being made in-character with in-character information. People who are knocked the fuck out cannot make that decision. They cannot even perceive what is happening around them in order to help them ma...

The entire idea that unconscious people would be considered willing and then unwilling to the same spell is an extraordinary claim. You would have to find a rule somewhere to support that. It would be very weird if that was true, and you cannot make that claim without evidence. For spellcasting pur...

It says unconscious people are willing in reference to spell targeting. Then, every other part of spell targeting that gives a shit whether people are willing is also going to treat them as. That is the beginning and end of it. You sputtering about how the book doesn't constantly remind you that un...

Just because they're willing doesn't mean it'll happen. I'm Willing, for example, to have Cure Light Wounds cast on me pretty much whenever. But does that mean me wanting the be healed is going to raise my hitpoints? No, that's stupid. It just means that if you stick a Helm of Opposite Alignment on...

And if someone has this item:

The beacon of true faith is destroyed if its bearer turns against the worship of his deity to willingly embrace an opposite alignment.

They automatically switch to the opposite alignment and the item is destroyed if they become unconscious?

You actually don't. Such spells essentially coup de grace sleeping people. You would still get saves against non-spell effects. While you're unconscious you can save against a coup de grace or a poison. Because being willing or not only counts for spell effects. -Username17 Do correct me if I'm wro...

That throws the character concept of "master of many styles" under the bus. Hard. Not necessarily, if say the Fighter class was handing out combat styles as bonus feats then they wouldn't be competing with other feats. (and "master of all styles" could seriously just be the Figh...

Instead feats should be the second most important thing you chose after classes, if for instance fighting with two weapons is core to your characters you should be able to take "Two Weapon Fighting" at level one and that should be that. Basically we want Tome feats but in smaller numbers....

You are such a lying piece of shit. I was attributing genuine belief to you before, but nope, this is definitely definitely you being a lying piece of shit. You are seriously making a one man crusade for the idea that unconscious people get saving throws against spells, but then you deny that you a...

TL;DR Forgoing a saving throw because you are willing happens when you are willing, and you are willing when you are unconscious, so they have a 100% overlap. Maybe I can explain this with Water breathing, when you are on a sinking shit, and someone is unconscious, you don't roll a saving throw to ...

For example, you can target only willing creatures with a teleport spell. Unconscious creatures automatically become willing targets. Creatures who are not willing don't even have to make a save. While for example death knell can target an 'unwilling' creature. Who can still make a saving throw eve...

So Teleport offers you no save at all, but it offers a save to creatures who you try to teleport. Just like Disintegrate offers a save to creatures. Nope. You can bring along objects as long as their weight doesn't exceed your maximum load. You may also bring one additional willing Medium or smalle...

"Voluntarily Giving up a Saving Throw A creature can voluntarily forego a saving throw and willingly accept a spell’s result. Even a character with a special resistance to magic can suppress this quality." But no, tell me how you always have the unconscious party members roll saving throw...

Except for that whole thing where the rules actually say that unconscious creatures never get a saving throw. But I mean, aside from that, your made up distinction totally applies to the one situation the rules specifically say it doesn't apply to and no others. Really? Where does it say that? All ...

What things in Pathfinder interact with the (harmless) tag? There is a small difference between how you get a saving throw. Harmful spells give you a saving throw, which you can choose to forgo while harmless spells allow you to choose to get a saving throw. So if for whatever reason you can't choo...

If my trusted friends and allies cast a spell on me that I have no idea what is, because I'm not a smart PC and my Spellcraft modifier is "fuck no", I'm probably not going to resist it. You'll forgo the save on a hostile spell if you don't know what it is? I sure wouldn't. Also just telli...

If my trusted friends and allies cast a spell on me that I have no idea what is, because I'm not a smart PC and my Spellcraft modifier is "fuck no", I'm probably not going to resist it. You'll forgo the save on a hostile spell if you don't know what it is? I sure wouldn't. Also just telli...

I'm not 100% certain that Beguiling Touch is all that good. It explicitly can't be used in combat nor be used against hostile targets. At which point, it interacts based on how your DM thinks charm works. At its worst, this is a +10 or +5 to Diplomacy for a couple rounds, and they've removed the op...

The penalty for the second attack isn't the problem. Tactics like Rapid Shot, TWF, and the like work on a -2/-2 basis and worked fine; and +0/-5 is close enough to compare. The problem happens at the third and fourth attacks, with penalties of -10 & -15 respectively. Penalties of that size shou...

I can't speak to summons at high levels, but Color Spray works on like 99% of non mindless things, Silent Image should, if your DM isn't a cock, instantly end all fights against mindless opponents. If you aren't single handidly beating like... uh... well, darkmantles? that's okay, the other 3 peopl...