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No, you stupid fuck. You still missed a big part of one of my points -- but don't worry, I'm not going to go over it again, because you're too fucking stupid to understand. Insisting that everyone tip-toe around and ignore the specific points that I've addressed is neglectfully harmful to the advoca...

@Kaelik I have never in my life seen such a twisted, butchered interpretation of anything ever. You're just flat-out fucking stupid. Stupid.Stupid.Stupid. Before my last post, I was trying to give you and everyone the benefit of the doubt about any miscommunication. But now, this is nothing but will...

"We don't need no stinking new MPSIMS thread -- we'll just co-opt this one" Fuck it -- I can roll with that. [hr] First, I want to thank dean for doing a masterful job of articulating some of the thoughts that have been in my head but that I've failed horribly to translate effectively to m...

Speaking of chases: I'm reminded of this article.
It's 10 pages of meandering, is a middle article of a multi-part series, and talks about a bunch of other stuff .... but I thought that the meat of it was pretty good (not to mention I find him entertaining to read)

codeGlaze wrote:Pretty sure this was 'resolved' on page 1.

*sigh* I think you're right.

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You want rape because you think it's necessary, and you think it's necessary because you want it. No. I've never said that -- you're putting words in my mouth that were never there. You've, for whatever reason, completely twisted what I've been trying to say in to some crude, fucked-up parody of wh...

I am seeing more evidence for the idiot/ asshole theory I posted before. Well then, I don't know WTF to tell you. It might help if you could actually be bothered to articulate your specific objections. Because that would be more helpful and productive than simply resorting to post-after-post-after-...

It's a hot button because shit like that happens *constantly* and people like you dismiss it as the rantings of "militant feminism". Watch yourself with that -- you're starting to veer in to PL territory with that one. Now, while I probably used poor word choice, I would think that the ve...

Also, since we're talking about "for thematic reasons" and "established trope" and all that - I've never seen or heard of an instance of a story in a TTRPG where rape was an asset. That is, I've never thought - "Oh, this plot would have been better with a rape in it." ...

Point being -- I'm not buying this business of "victim is assaulted everywhere from all sides" business .... that particular paradigm just doesn't exist anymore -- anyone saying different either haven't been paying attention to the progress of the last few generations, or they're trying t...

Don't be a smartass. Not trying to be. I honestly would try to tone down the murder in my games so that it was just as taboo as the main topic of this thread, if I thought I could get my group to go with it. Usually they seem annoyed with things like Champions making killing damage much more expens...

***note: the vast majority of this post is directed at the prevailing idea that I'm some kind of retarded monster. Only wear shoes as they fit*** *sigh* Alright, I was trying to stay pointedly on topic; but apparently there are a couple of things that I need to address (WTF???): So, if it helps any...

@TheFlatline: You make some fair points. I'm perfectly willing to admit ignorance on a large part of this issue, given that my experience with the issue is quite limited. That's why I'm asking questions. I'm not anti-anti-rape (much less pro-rape) -- but I do sometimes need some convincing when I'm ...

If you REALLY want to be edgy, why not put the whole "murder is a given in RPG" thing under a microscope? Wait -- I just picked up on what you're getting at here. This has nothing to do with trying to be "edgy". I read a couple of articles, was confounded about a couple of point...

Midnight_v wrote: You mean like Law = Believes there should be rules in place.

I like this verbiage -- it should be used more (at least that my first-glance take)

@Sakuya
That's actually part of the point:

wotmaniac wrote:"Listing depraved behaviors" is either on the table or off the table -- disgusting, depraved, and traumatizing is disgusting, depraved, and traumatizing.

If it's genre appropriate, then it's genre appropriate. If it's not, it's not.

aaaand PL is on ignore. somebody let me know if he accidentally says anything thats relevant and is not a strawman. [hr] @hyzmarca: Okay, I think I see what you're getting at here -- it's the lazy shorthand that bugs you? I can agree with that. I thought you were saying that it never has any place i...

PhoneLobster wrote:

I find it telling that you are the only one on this thread that has construed my posts in this manner.

Sorry buddy -- you'll have to find someone else to pick a fight with.

@Penny Arcade: I don't have a problem with either the original comic or their response. Given how satire works, the original comic was clearly a commentary on the monstrous nature of people who demonstrate the lack of conscience that allows them to completely ignore the suffering of others (particul...

So .... they're just bitching to hear themselves bitch? Some need to feel morally superior? 'cause that's may take. The way I see it, "tried and true" literary devices are a thing; and they serve a purpose. There are a metric fucktonne of cliches that bore me to tears and I hope that I nev...

Could you tl:dr the points of those three articles? Yeah -- I probably should have done that to begin with (sorry): tl;dr: Basically, it's a couple of diatribes about the "Big 3" cliches of rape implementation in to RPGs, comics, movies, etc.; and all 3 are a part of character development...

I don't think that there is actually a "right" way to put something that bad into a medium that people are supposed to be enjoying. The closest I've come across that is in Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, where it is mentioned, but never happens. I would agree with the tWoT assessmen...

(for the record: this is simply a matter of intellectual curiosity for me; as I cannot make heads or tails of anything resembling a quantifiable conclusion) I happen to be reading the latest post over on Deeper in the Game , which referenced THIS article, which further referenced this article ..... ...

So, here's a question I've had on occasion: Blasting is not a very good route for a wizard to go, be it pathfinder or 3e/3.5, so then how does a wizard take their enemies out if they're solo and without a party to do the hp killing for them? Blasting is quite viable, as long as you make liberal use...

@ skill-based advancement + archetype advancement: So, what would be wrong with picking an archetype, that archetype has a list of "favored skills" (or whatever), and those favored skills simply cost less to advance? It wouldn't be the first time it's been done. (I must admit, up front, th...